Yah i can not remember the Word, word for word and where it can be found. But I know it is in there. And I always know the just of it.
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I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out there is
IN GOD WE TRUST
Karen Carter '74
-KC- Ministries
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: Lyn Cooper <[log in to unmask]>
> Yes, Karen, it is and I appreciate your encouragement. Sometimes though in
> the midst of trouble I might not quote His word exactly, but it's easy when
> you are here to find what you are looking for and copy and paste. Glory be
> to God!!!
> For unto us a child is born. Unto us a son is given.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karen Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 1:49 PM
> Subject: Re: for God's Glory a devotion that caused my question...
>
>
> > Amen Lyn isn't it wonderful that we do not have to speak the words but God
> > speaks them for us. Use his word everytime and you can never loose.
> >
> > --
> > I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out
> > there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out
> > there is
> >
> > IN GOD WE TRUST
> > Karen Carter '74
> > -KC- Ministries
> >
> >
> > -------------- Original message ----------------------
> > From: Lyn Cooper <[log in to unmask]>
> >> The only think I can say about this one is that Jesus told the people who
> >> asked who sinned that no one sinned in that case, but also we know that
> >> somehow someone does suffer for all of that sin. But the scripture tells
> >> us
> >> that we all have a chance to come unto repentance. I think sometimes if
> >> we
> >> get caught up in the sin of our families and the generational curses that
> >> can happen, Satan gets a chance to throw those fiery darts that Ephesians
> >> talks about, and we can quickly forget the awesome God that we serve
> >> whose
> >> death forgave us when he said, "It is finished.
> >> 23But they were insistent and urgent, demanding with loud cries that He
> >> should be crucified. And their voices prevailed (accomplished their
> >> purpose).
> >>
> >> 24And Pilate gave sentence, that what they asked should be done.
> >>
> >> 25So he released the man who had been thrown into prison for riot and
> >> murder, for whom they continued to ask, but Jesus he delivered up to be
> >> done
> >> with
> >> as they willed.
> >>
> >> 26And as they led Him away, they seized one Simon of Cyrene, who was
> >> coming in from the country, and laid on him the cross and made him carry
> >> it
> >> behind
> >> Jesus.
> >>
> >> 27And there accompanied [Jesus] a great multitude of the people,
> >> [including] women who bewailed and lamented Him.
> >>
> >> 28But Jesus, turning toward them, said, Daughters of Jerusalem, do
> >> not
> >> weep for Me, but weep for yourselves and for your children.
> >>
> >> 29For behold, the days are coming during which they will say, Blessed
> >> (happy, fortunate, and [
> >> g]
> >> to be envied) are the barren, and the wombs that have not borne, and the
> >> breasts that have never nursed [babies]!
> >>
> >> 30Then they will begin to say to the mountains, Fall on us! and to
> >> the
> >> hills, Cover (conceal, hide) us!
> >>
> >> 31For if they do these things when the timber is green, what will
> >> happen
> >> when it is dry?
> >>
> >> 32Two others also, who were criminals, were led away to be executed
> >> with
> >> Him.(
> >> C)
> >>
> >> 33And when they came to the place which is called The Skull [Latin:
> >> Calvary; Hebrew: Golgotha], there they crucified Him, and [along with]
> >> the
> >> criminals,
> >> one on the right and one on the left.
> >>
> >> 34And Jesus prayed, Father, forgive them, for they know not what they
> >> do. 40But the other one reproved him, saying, Do you not even fear
> >> God,
> >> seeing you yourself are under the same sentence of condemnation and
> >> suffering the
> >> same penalty?
> >>
> >> 41And we indeed suffer it justly, receiving the due reward of our
> >> actions; but this Man has done nothing out of the way [nothing [
> >> n]
> >> strange or eccentric or perverse or unreasonable].
> >>
> >> 42Then he said to Jesus, Lord, remember me when You come [
> >> o]
> >> in Your kingly glory!
> >>
> >> 43And He answered him, Truly I tell you, today you shall be with Me
> >> in
> >> Paradise.45While the sun's light faded or [
> >> p]
> >> was darkened; and the curtain [of the Holy of Holies] of the temple was
> >> torn
> >> in two.(
> >> F)
> >>
> >> 46And Jesus, crying out with a loud voice, said, Father, into Your
> >> hands
> >> I commit My spirit! And with these words, He expired.
> >> I know I included a lot of scriptures here, but if we look at these
> >> passages
> >> we find that in the tearing in half of the vale, we are able without a
> >> priest or the blood on the mercy seat to go directly to Jesus and ask his
> >> forgivemess realizing that for our sins there are consequences, but God's
> >> grace and mercy forgives even though he might reprove us. I hope I
> >> didn't
> >> say too much, but this spoke volumes to my spirit. Thanks for having
> >> this
> >> discussion, and thanks Dave for showing me Bible Gateway.
> >> For unto us a child is born. Unto us a son is given.
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:06 PM
> >> Subject: Re: for God's Glory a devotion that caused my question...
> >>
> >>
> >> > Children do suffer the consequences of a parent's sin. Look at all the
> >> > crack babies and the babies with aids. It may not be nice to think of
> >> > but
> >> > it is true never the less. Our entire family does suffer when one of
> >> > us
> >> > sins in some way.
> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > From: Karen Carter <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > Sent: Wednesday, January 25, 2006 10:40 AM
> >> > Subject: Re: for God's Glory a devotion that caused my question...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> No. Man is responsible for his own sin. If we were blind for someone
> >> > elses sin everyone in the world would be handicapped in someway. There
> >> > is
> >> > a
> >> > verse that says all man are responsible for his own sin. I know in the
> >> > old
> >> > testimentbefore Jesus there were generational curses but Jesus wiped
> >> > that
> >> > all away. I know there are those of you who know where the appropriate
> >> > verses are. We were born early due to the consiquences of our mothers
> >> > drinking and such but not because of sin. I know drinking is a sin but
> >> > God
> >> > would not punish us for it.
> >> >>
> >> >> --
> >> >> I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out
> >> > there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out
> >> > there
> >> > is
> >> >>
> >> >> IN GOD WE TRUST
> >> >> Karen Carter '74
> >> >> -KC- Ministries
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> -------------- Original message ----------------------
> >> >> From: [log in to unmask]
> >> >> > Perhaps we were just predestined to be blind ha ha. Seriously,
> >> >> > though,
> >> >> > don't you thing blindness can be just a consequence of a previous
> >> >> > action
> >> > or
> >> >> > condition of our parents? My mother was malnourished as a child
> >> >> > because
> >> > my
> >> >> > grandparents were very poor. She also smoked and drank while she
> >> > carried
> >> >> > me. She never had any prenatal care till I threatened to get out of
> >> > there
> >> >> > altogether by miscarrying. Then she went up to Cleveland where
> >> >> > there
> >> > were
> >> >> > doctors who could help her. They did their best to keep me from
> >> >> > coming
> >> > to
> >> >> > soon but I did at 26 weeks along. My mother told me the doctor gave
> >> >> > her
> >> >> > medication to try to keep me in the womb even on Sundays at his
> >> >> > office.
> >> > My
> >> >> > being born prematurely is what caused my blindness. This is a mere
> >> >> > consequence of all the hardships my mother had to endure and of the
> >> >> > care
> >> > she
> >> >> > took of herself prior to my being born. Many times people don't
> >> >> > manage
> >> >> > properly their diabetes or something which leads to consequences.
> >> >> > Don't
> >> > you
> >> >> > think this could be true?
> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> >> > From: MV <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2006 7:25 AM
> >> >> > Subject: Re: for God's Glory a devotion that caused my question...
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > > Kathy,
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > You wrote...
> >> >> > > "Why is it easier to believe that God can cure a back ache or a
> >> >> > > head
> >> > ache
> >> >> > > that can't be seen and is totally subjective and not my eyes,
> >> >> > > which
> >> > would
> >> >> > > actually require physical reconstruction?"
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Bingo sister! It is curious too why, and perhaps it is me only,
> >> >> > > that
> >> > we
> >> >> > > hear of folks being healed of one leg longer than the other and
> >> >> > > not
> >> > one
> >> >> > > like us with an obvious life changing ailment??? Why is that or is
> >> >> > > it
> >> > just
> >> >> > > me? Also you are right in saying many walk away looking at our's
> >> >> > > or
> >> >> > other's
> >> >> > > situations "Gee I'm thankful I'm not in that situation". I did
> >> >> > > even
> >> > see
> >> >> > > some of that in the devotion Rhonda posted. It is sooooo easy for
> >> > people
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > > say "God has blessed you with the ability to handle your
> >> >> > > situation,
> >> >> > > praise and glory to him who gave you patience and look all you
> >> > learned
> >> >> > > from this situation", and then they hop in their car and drive
> >> >> > > home. Granted I bet we do the same with those we feel have harder
> >> > cards
> >> >> > to
> >> >> > > play in life. It is a different perspective when someone with an
> >> >> > > affliction gives glory for the illness, but to me, and I
> >> >> > > reluctantly
> >> > say
> >> >> > > anything here as I said I don't want to pull at anyone's beliefs
> >> >> > > that
> >> >> > > enable them to cope, but I can't see glory in that either.
> >> >> > > Perhaps
> >> > I'm
> >> >> > > not spiritually mature to that point yet, maybe that's it. I do
> >> > however
> >> >> > see
> >> >> > > a gigantic opportunity for people to see God's glory in my
> >> >> > > healing.
> >> >> > > I
> >> >> > know
> >> >> > > many blind vendors here in WI, plus having been blind for sometime
> >> > now,
> >> >> > > gotten to know many blind folks, and of course we become pegged as
> >> >> > > the
> >> >> > > blind guy who does this or does that by sighted folks, and then of
> >> > course
> >> >> > > our relatives, think of that impact. I wonder what they'd do or
> >> >> > > say
> >> >> > > or
> >> >> > > wonder if they saw me driving next week, looking them square in
> >> >> > > the
> >> > eye,
> >> >> > > waving and smiling hahaha? Now there's opportunity for glory. And
> >> >> > > you
> >> > know
> >> >> > > what? Isn't that what Jesus meant and demonstrated with the blind
> >> >> > > guy
> >> > when
> >> >> > > the disciples asked him who sinned this man or his parents? And
> >> >> > > Jesus
> >> > said
> >> >> > > neither but for the glory of God, then he spit in mud, swiped his
> >> >> > > eyes
> >> > and
> >> >> > > said wash off dude and you'll be flashing them baby blues. And
> >> >> > > didn't
> >> > the
> >> >> > > blind man give credit to Jesus? Who in turn gave credit to the
> >> >> > > Father? Perhaps I am a bit *snapping fingers* what's the word I'm
> >> > looking
> >> >> > > for... rebellious? Brash? No no, I don't know the word, upfront
> >> >> > > maybe??? anyway it is almost rather than to say God wills me
> >> >> > > this
> >> > way
> >> >> > and
> >> >> > > get's glory out of it, I can't help not hiding my thoughts in
> >> > saying
> >> >> > "OK
> >> >> > > God. Point blank here, no more games, no more fooling around with
> >> >> > > this
> >> >> > > thing. Do you heal or don't you? And if so, why not me so I can
> >> >> > > fix
> >> > what
> >> >> > is
> >> >> > > out of your will and move on with the life you given me in a way I
> >> >> > > was
> >> >> > > originally equipped to do! If you don't then I know the score and
> >> >> > > I'll
> >> >> > fall
> >> >> > > in place and accept that." I don't mean that disrespectfully, but
> >> >> > > I
> >> > also
> >> >> > > can't feel one way and hide it from him. That's just foolishness.
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > Brad
> >> >
> >
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