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Amy,

That is testimony to just how afraid she is of what she is stowing away
inside. Broaches the idea of getting help, but fear sets in and again lash
out at the ones she feels have the most chance to forgive her. The
unfortunate part is both you and dad are growing more weary all the time
and also  what she is stowing or not dealing with in life is unnecessary
to hold it in and continue to eat away at quality of life. It can be dealt
with and freedom experienced and move on to a better way of life. Perhaps
this would happen quickly, and perhaps it might take some time, depending
on  what all is happening. Too bad you couldn't convince her to put in a
call to Phil's ministry, perhaps she then can see the power of God's hand
to heal life's hurts.

Brad


on 08:16 AM 9/1/2005, Amy Gordon said:
Brad,
     I did have a big long discussion with her in which we both got upset
and
crying and everthing and she said maybe it is her and that she would do
whatever it takes to get better such as go see a doctor or counselor but
she
hasn't done it.  So now she's turned it back around at us again.  Well
really she always had said that Dad and I are the problem.

Amy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brad D" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 10:59 PM
Subject: Re: Very Bad Day


 > That is all you can do and perhaps try to point her towards help when
it
 > is wise to do so and feel it is right. It is a shame because I'm sure
she
 > is just as hurt if not worse because she knows full well what it is
doing,
 > yet likely too fearful to stop. So she is torn I'm sure.  Fear comes
out
 > in anger so it is disguised, but it doesn't seem anything but like
anger
 > to you and your dad I'm sure because you are in the midst of the
flames.
 > Praying mom gets brave to  trust God to take on her fear for her.
 >
 > Brad
 >
 >
 > on 08:09 PM 8/31/2005, Amy Gordon said:
 > Brad,
 >      I try to talk to her sometimes but ever time I just get shut down
by
 > something smart she will say.  I really want to try to have a great
 > relationship with her but I can't figure out how to make it work.  It
 > hurts
 > me badly and his hurting my Dad to because I think he feels the same
way.
 > We just don't know what to do besides keep praying.
 >
 > Amy
 >
 > ----- Original Message -----
 > From: "Brad D" <[log in to unmask]>
 > To: <[log in to unmask]>
 > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:21 PM
 > Subject: Re: Very Bad Day
 >
 >
 >  > Amy,
 >  >
 >  > My guess is, when she finds out, or rather comes to grips with her
 > issues,
 >  > she will be a changed person, and those around her that will come to
 > know
 >  > her issues, likely those closest to her, will feel perhaps sorrow
for
 > her
 >  > past as well as their own towards her,  perhaps even ashamed and
 >  > remorseful. Seems to me she has been hurt very bad in her life
somehow
 > and
 >  > is so struggling to be close and want that so very much, yet so very
 >  > afraid to be close for fear of being hurt again. The fear is not
likely
 >  > rational, but very real nonetheless and appears to be a great tug of
 > war
 >  > in her. I pray she does not leave it dormant because it is all the
 > longer
 >  > she lives life with useless and wasteful baggage preventing her and
 > others
 >  > from entering great relationships which time is unforgiving.
 >  >
 >  > Brad
 >  >
 >  >
 >  > on 08:46 AM 8/30/2005, Amy Gordon said:
 >  > Brad,
 >  >      That's right.  We just can't figure out what is wrong with
her.  I
 >  > just
 >  > pray every day that God will reveal the real issue with her and will
 > help
 >  > me
 >  > and my Dad deal with this.  The thing is that she isn't just like
this
 >  > with
 >  > us.  It is with alot of people.
 >  >
 >  > Amy
 >  > ----- Original Message -----
 >  > From: "Brad D" <[log in to unmask]>
 >  > To: <[log in to unmask]>
 >  > Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:38 AM
 >  > Subject: Re: Very Bad Day
 >  >
 >  >
 >  >  > Mom needs some prayer too that her issues be taken care of. I get
 > the
 >  >  > distinct sense you and dad are victims as well of what mom  is
 > dealing
 >  >  > with, or rather avoiding. God be yawls guide.
 >  >  >
 >  >  > Brad
 >  >  >
 >  >  >
 >  >  > on 02:35 PM 8/29/2005, Amy Gordon said:
 >  >  > This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
 >  >  >
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 >  >  >
 >  >  > Hello everyone,
 >  >  >      Today started out as a good day but now it isn't so
good.  My
 > Mom
 >  > =
 >  >  > asked me what happened to me and Tommy, which used to be my
 >  > boyfriend.  =
 >  >  > I told her again that we had decided to just be friends.  Then I
 > said =
 >  >  > that it was because of some stuff going on.  I then paused and
 > decided
 >  > I =
 >  >  > would tell her more but she said how come you can tell everyone
else
 >  > but =
 >  >  > can't tell me?  I have told her before why I can't tell her
 > things.  So
 >  > =
 >  >  > then she said well I guess you can get someone else to help you
with
 > =
 >  >  > your Sunday school lesson.  She records it for me so I can teach
 > it.  I
 >  > =
 >  >  > really would like to tell her things but I can't because I never
 > know =
 >  >  > how she will react.  I'm trying to stay upstairs away from
her.  I
 > just
 >  > =
 >  >  > am so hurt because this happens so often.  She doesn't ever tell
me
 > =
 >  >  > anything either.  Dad has the same problem with her.  Please pray
 > for =
 >  >  > me.
 >  >  >
 >  >  > Thanks,
 >  >  > Amy
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 >  >  > Hello everyone,
 >  >  >      Today started out as = a good day=20 but now it isn't so
 > good.  My
 >  >  > Mom asked me what happened to me and = Tommy,=20 which used to be
my
 >  >  > boyfriend.  I told her again that we had = decided to=20 just be
 >  >  > friends.  Then I said that it was because of some stuff =
going=20
 >  > on.  I
 >  >  > then paused and decided I would tell her more but she said = how
 >  > come=20
 >  >  > you can tell everyone else but can't tell me?  I have told her =
 > before
 >  >  > why I=20 can't tell her things.  So then she said well I guess
you
 > can
 >  > get
 >  >  > = someone=20 else to help you with your Sunday school
lesson.  She
 >  > records
 >  >  > it = for me so=20 I can teach it.  I really would like to tell
her
 >  > things
 >  >  > but I can't = because=20 I never know how she will react.  I'm
 > trying
 >  > to
 >  >  > stay upstairs away = from=20 her.  I just am so hurt because this
 >  > happens
 >  >  > so often.  She = doesn't=20 ever tell me anything either.  Dad
has
 > the
 >  >  > same problem with = her. =20 Please pray for me.
 >  >  >
 >  >  > Thanks,
 >  >  > Amy
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