now you remind me who warned him. he knew, i beg your
pardon, every major intellingence agency in the world
was saying saddam had wmd. the brits, the french, the
russians, the chinese, the jordanians, the isrealis,
the egyptions, the germans, the spanish, the italians,
and a host of others. it was not just the cia.  
   lets see sean penn warned him? micheal moore warned
him? who warned him lynda? your memories and my
memories don't match up. remind me who warned him and
how credible they were. 

--- Linda Walker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Ken,
> 
> Bush did lie about something as important as whether
> or not to send 
> our citizens to die in foreign land. He was warned
> and did know there 
> were no WMD's. That evidence is pretty clear. I
> cannot understand how 
> you can defend that point.
> Beyond that all the attacks on benefits for the
> disabled and the 
> rollbacks of hard won things people who suffer need
> are at the hands 
> of the Republicans. This is a mean spirited uncaring
> group who stole 
> 2 elections. He didn't win in Ohio legally last time
> and he lost 
> Florida the first time.
> I live and am renting to returned soldiers and I can
> tell you they 
> are wrecks and for what? OIL!! You cannot send out a
> 19 year old 
> sniper to kill people and have him get over 20
> 'hits' as they 
> euphemistically refer to killing people and not have
> emotional 
> problems. If you want to see a psychologist in the
> Army to help you 
> cope with this and what you have witnessed there
> then consider your 
> career dead.
> One young man we rented to drove himself off a cliff
> 2 weeks after 
> his return. He was drunk as many of them are in
> order to stop the 
> feelings from coming out. This war casualty will not
> be counted by 
> the Bushites. The soldiers returning from Vietnam
> caused many social 
> problems and that will pale in the face of the
> social costs of this 
> war. Domestic violence will increase dramatically
> among soldiers and 
> many of them will not be able to recoup any sense of
> peace in their 
> lives. I am seeing this up close and personal more
> that I care 
> to.  Even neocons are deserting him now.
> 
> At 07:49 AM 3/25/2006, you wrote:
> >now mag, the definition of a lie is to tell
> something
> >that you know is not true at the time you tell it.
> >look it up.
> >   you guys who can't come up with anything but
> "bush
> >lied" just do not know how foolish you sound. i
> love
> >you, but, please, get past that tripe. bush as well
> as
> >all your derm senators and intelligence around the
> >world all said saddam had wmd. you do not say every
> >body lied, only "bush lied."
> >   the truth is that nobody lied about wmd, becouse
> not
> >a one of them knew that he did not have them and
> went
> >ahead and said he did.
> >    get past the foolishness and get something
> >substantial to say.
> >
> >--- Magenta Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > Saddam is being tried for the atrocities he
> > > perpetrated against the Kurds,
> > > and Iranians, as well as murdering some of his
> own
> > > people.
> > >
> > > Bush lying about weapons of mass destruction or
> > > Clinton lying about his
> > > affair; which  is worse?  I say bush's lies
> about
> > > wmd is worse because
> > > after they found no wmd, he made up several
> other
> > > stories about why we are
> > > there.
> > >
> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > > [log in to unmask]
> > > Come visit my new store!
> > > http://www.cafepress.com/TamarMag
> > > visit my Blog at;
> > > http://tamarmag-newsletters.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > >
> > > > [Original Message]
> > > > From: Anthony Arnold
> <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Date: 3/24/2006 5:19:03 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: FW: was dental question   now
> iraq
> > > war.
> > > >
> > > > I don't know what we're currently trying
> Hussein
> > > and his brother for, but
> > > > they had no involvement in September 11th, so
> why
> > > are we over there
> > > besides
> > > > to take our frustration out on somebody.  But
> on
> > > the other hand, if I
> > > would
> > > > become the president tomorrow, I wouldn't pull
> out
> > > immediately as some
> > > would
> > > > like to see, I would personally like to fix
> what
> > > my country has done.
> > > It's
> > > > like if I accidentally dropped a cigarette on
> > > somebody's carpet and it
> > > burns
> > > > a hole, I would feel oppogated to replace
> their
> > > carpet, no matter what.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Anthony
> > > > Visit my website at www.anthonyarnold.net
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Cerebral Palsy List
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> > > > Kendall David Corbett
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 6:49 PM
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject: Re: FW: was dental question now iraq
> war.
> > > >
> > > > Ken,
> > > >
> > > > Whether the Iraqis are better off is a tough
> call;
> > > they may (or may not,
> > > > some would argue) have greater civil
> liberties,
> > > but their lives may be
> > > > in greater immediate danger than they were
> under
> > > Hussein. =20
> > > >
> > > > On the opposite side of that coin, many would
> > > argue that we in the US
> > > > are safer, but have had our civil liberties
> > > eroded.  It was said in the
> > > > immediate post 9/11 period that the terrorists
> > > wanted to destroy the
> > > > American (read US) way of life, and they have
> made
> > > a start toward that,
> > > > IMHO.
> > > >
> > > > As I read UN Resolution 1441, it doesn't
> > > explicitly give member states
> > > > of the UN permission to undertake unilateral
> > > military action against
> > > > Iraq.  That does seem to be permissible under
> UN
> > > resolutions 678 and
> > > > 687, which were signed in 1990 and 1991,
> > > respectively. =20
> > > >
> > > > My point is that the armed forces presently
> > > engaged as coalition
> > > > partners do not wear UN uniforms, and as such
> are
> > > not formally
> > > > recognized as UN forces.
> > > >
> > > > Kendall=20
> > > >
> > > > An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's
> > > redundant!)
> > > >
> > > > The reasonable man adapts himself to the
> world;
> > > the unreasonable one
> > > > persists in trying to adapt the world to
> himself.
> > > Therefore, all
> > > > progress depends on the unreasonable man.
> > > >
> > > > -George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950
> > > >
> > > >
> 
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