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ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
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St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
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cynical... but, if it ran as smooth as iraq,
unfortunately to have to say "it would be an
improvement."

--- Bobby Greer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>     Ahem You all are not not considering the amount
> of time it takes to
> figure out how Haliburton can make a profit off
> Katrina's aftermast. Once
> the Shrub and his cabinet organize for Haliburton's
> involvment, things wiill
> run as smoothly in the "Big Easy" as they do in
> Iraq!
>
> Bobby
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ken barber" <[log in to unmask]>
> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.c-palsy
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 10:17 AM
> Subject: Re: Fw: Here's an article on the
> preparedness of FEMA.
>
>
> > and just why are we blocking nuclear? oil is there
> and
> > yes, it will eventually run out, but not soon.
> we'd
> > better develope alturnatives, but, we can't shut
> down
> > the world in the meantime.
> >
> > may i ask a question. oil is naturally there. it
> is
> > part of nature. guys, what would you suggest we do
> > with it if we did not use it as we now do? i'll
> say
> > this: we'd have finished off the whales had
> someone
> > not learned to use oil.
> >
> > --- Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >> Oil is a finite item - eventually we will run out
> -
> >> we need to come with alternatives for it. But its
> >> highly doubtful the folks who get filthy rich off
> >> oil want that. One way or the other - the day the
> >> oil runs out will come. Then what? Mass anarchy?
> I
> >> remember the last oil crisis - what 30 years ago
> -
> >> and what has changed - nada. Because oil makes
> >> someone rich and rich people run the government
> and
> >> their interests are taken care of. Longterm
> >> planning...........?
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
> >> [mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf
> Of
> >> ken barber
> >> Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 10:41 PM
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: Fw: Here's an article on the
> >> preparedness of FEMA.
> >>
> >>
> >> dear mag, they can put an oil well in now that
> you
> >> could not find if you did not know where it was.
> >> hydrogen cars are a good 20 years to feasably
> being
> >> sold to the public. electric cars are good for
> short
> >> range local driving if you hold down the mileage.
> >> the
> >> hybrids on the market now is the best bet if they
> >> can
> >> get them down a little so that most average
> people
> >> can
> >> aford them.
> >> the idea that business men ant to poison the air
> and
> >> water that they and their kids have to breath and
> >> drink just like everybody else is irrational.
> >>   i am saying taxes are a big part of the price
> of
> >> gas. if the government can do anything quickly
> about
> >> the high prices, that is it. if you don't want
> >> prices
> >> to come down, then leave it alone. you know if
> gas
> >> keeps going up, your food is going to go up, your
> >> mass
> >> transit will go up, you name your consumer
> products
> >> and the cost og fuel will affect it. if you do
> not
> >> want the only quick fix the government can
> effect,
> >> then don't critisize any of them from bush down.
> >>   long term we are going to have to quit
> listening
> >> to
> >> irrational groups and build refineries, drill for
> >> oil,
> >> build nuclear power plants and other things.
> >>   by the way if you want to put the drilling in
> >> anwar
> >> in prospective the 2000 acres where drilling is
> >> proposed compared to all of anwar would be like a
> >> postage stamp on your average living room floor.
> >> and
> >> it is not pristime wilderness, it is a danm sheet
> of
> >> ice, contrary to what the media portrays.
> >>   like i said this fuel crises now is showing the
> >> pure
> >> folly of the politics of the last 20 years or so.
> >> and
> >> like i said some of us saw it comming.
> >>
> >>
> >> --- Magenta Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>
> >> > it is my understanding that companies have been
> >> > buying up patents for
> >> > alternative energy vehicles but have not yet
> put
> >> > them on market because
> >> > they want to squeeze every drop of oil money
> they
> >> > can. So I am not sure if
> >> > drilling for our own oil and messing up the
> >> > environment is the thing to do.
> >> > They are waiting too damn long to put these
> alt.
> >> > vehicles on market.
> >> >
> >> > My question is, why are you saying  roll back
> the
> >> > gas tax??
> >> >
> >> > mag
> >> >
> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> >> > [log in to unmask]
> >> > If you need a business card designed, please
> email
> >> > me.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > [Original Message]
> >> > > From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > > Date: 9/5/2005 2:51:32 PM
> >> > > Subject: Re: Fw: Here's an article on the
> >> > preparedness of FEMA.
> >> > >
> >> > > our governor removed state tax from gas here
> in
> >> > > georgia, write your governor and ask that nc
> do
> >> > the
> >> > > same. by the way i was in north carolina this
> >> > morning
> >> > > and could have filled up at 3.19.
> >> > > write your congressman and senators and
> remove
> >> the
> >> > > federal tax on gas.
> >> > >
> >> > > but, of course there is a gas shortage. there
> >> was
> >> > a
> >> > > short supply before the storm. roughly 25 per
> >> cent
> >> > of
> >> > > the countries energy comes from the gulf
> coast.
> >> > > refineries are under water. we have not built
> a
> >> > new
> >> > > refinery since 1975. most of the refineries
> were
> >> > > running at near capicity so those left can't
> >> take
> >> > up
> >> > > the slack. this just points up the folly of
> not
> >> > > drilling for our own oil and building our
> >> > capacity.
> >> > > the very folly of the politics that has
> blocked
> >> > this
> >> > > for years. some of us saw it comming.
> >> > >
> >> > > --- Kathy <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > We're feeling the effects here in NC too,
> >> Bobby
> >> > -
>
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