Cornelius,
Thanks for the links. With the advent of the Internet only the lazy can
claim ignorance.
Only last year, an English "aristocrat" whose forebears had robbed large
acres of land in Kenya, shot and killed a young Kenyan, father and husband,
simply because he "trespassed on his property," and that was not the first
time this same man committed such a crime:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/4760811.stm
See also:
http://search.bbc.co.uk/cgi-bin/search/results.pl?scope=all&edition=i&q=kenya%2Baristocrat
for
a more comprehensive background and the type of mentality that allows these
people to continue to behave like they are in the Wild West. One must also
lay blame at our system of justice that allows these criminals to murder
Africans with impunity; the mental shackles that tells the Black man that he
is second class, not only abroad but also at home also bounds our
"educated".
And Black people are discussing Black issues at:
http://lists.topica.com/lists/theblacklist/read
Regards,
Kabir.
On 4/1/07, Cornelius Edward Hamelberg <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
>
> The links don't add much.
>
> "JUSTICE for the victims of imperialist plunder and pillage that is for a
> large part
> responsible for the condition that the long suffering people of Africa
> find
> ourselves."
>
> and, the Lancaster House overseas promise of compensation for White
> Farmers in Zimbabwe never happened. Is South Africa going to peacefully buy
> out the willing and the unwilling landowners in Zimbabwe and ensure a
> peaceful transfer? Will failure to do so ruin the economy in the long and
> short run?
>
>
> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=the+Lancaster+House++promise+of+compensation+for+White+Farmers+in+Zimbabwe+&btnG
>
>
> Black is black and black is back deep down in Orange Free State where
> no-compromise Blanche used to charge around on his white horse within his
> jurisdiction but only grumbles about the blacks (as always) and coloureds,
> now-a-days. He has deep sympathy for Ian smith.
>
>
> http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001954604_safrica12.html
>
>
> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Ian+Smith+%26+Rhodesia&meta=
>
>
> http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&q=Ian+Smith+%26+Zimbabwe&meta=
>
>
> Yes," Africans should keep their eyes on the ball and not
> be hoodwinked by the avalanche of propaganda and lies", yes Kabir, you
> enquired,
>
> " And who talked about Mugabe being an angel?"
>
>
> http://www.thezimbabwean.co.uk/viewinfo.cfm?menu&siteid=1&linkcategoryid=21&linkid=26&id=16
>
>
>
> >
> > From: Kabir <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: 2007/03/31 lö AM 03:33:20 CEST
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Ämne: Re: Zimbabwe
> >
> > Malinding Jaiteh,
> > You never cease to amaze me! How dare you blatently disregard the facts
> in
> > this matter and try to spin it? Whoever talked about getting even with
> > Europe? Have you ever heard of the term justice?
> > Well that is what people who have a sense of the term are talking about,
> not
> > getting even but getting JUSTICE. Get that in your head, JUSTICE for the
> > victims of imperialist plunder and pillage that is for a large part
> > responsible for the condition that the long suffering people of Africa
> find
> > ourselves. But for you maybe our condition is just the natural order of
> > thing?
> > And who talked about Mugabe being an angel? For once, there is an
> > African leader who stands up to your idols, calls them by their proper
> names
> > and does not suck up to them. Zimbabwe is a sovereign country and their
> > independence was hard won, in the battlefield, not granted on a sliver
> > platter and those progressive sons of Africa are going to continue to
> fight
> > to defend their right to self determination. Monkey is not going to
> continue
> > to work so baboon can eat!
> > Just as Mugabe told your Angels, if that is how you view the West, they
> can
> > go hang because Mugabe was elected by the people of Zimbabwe and it is
> not
> > the the place of Downing Street, the White House or Bush House to
> institute
> > regime change in Zimbabwe.
> > Putting Zimbabwe aside, I'm not surprised either that you are always
> unable
> > to separate the chaff from the grains, it is eveident from much of what
> you
> > post here.
> > For example, when people spent much of their valuable time here
> collecting
> > and compiling traditional Gambian names which I saved and took care of
> for
> > two years, you took that collection and corrupted it, adding all types
> of
> > foreign names and when it was pointed out to you that the mission was to
> > complile a list of traditional Gambian names - true to you reactionary
> > nature you tried to justify that with Ali Masrui having said something
> about
> > our tripple heritage. I was in no doubt that whatever he may have said,
> you
> > quoted out of context making Mary and John traditional Gambian names.
> > Sometimes I wonder why some of uswent to school in the first place,
> geez!
> > Kabir.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3/30/07, Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > >
> > > Njaajan,
> > > I think it will be tragic if we see the Zimbabwe problem as a chance
> to
> > > get even with Europe. The neocolonialists may be devils but Mr Mugabe
> is
> > > no angel. This man has been President of Zimbabwe since 1980 (27
> years)
> > > and still wants to extend his time. Either Zimbabweans can't get
> enough
> > > of him or should I say he just can't get enough of being there.
> > >
> > > Even if the MDC leaders receive money from outside interests to
> > > campaign against the land reform program, is beating and detention
> > > without trial the solution? Or is it that beating and detention
> without
> > > due process is acceptable as long as its perpetrated by our own?
> > >
> > >
> > > Malanding
> > >
> > >
> > > Njaajaan Njaay wrote:
> > >
> > > > Jabou,
> > > >
> > > > This was the boldest move these leaders have made in a long time if
> > > > ever; a
> > > > slap on the face of neocolonialism and its runnning dogs. The
> resolution
> > > > from the Tanzania meeting cannot leave anyone in doubt, calling on
> > > > Britain
> > > > to honour it's pledge and fund the Land Reform Program as agreed in
> > > > 1979 and
> > > > stop the progapanda and lies. These guys really made my day
> yesterday.
> > > >
> > > > You can already read it all over their media outlets, lying
> shamelessly
> > > > about about the nature of the conflict in Zimbabwe and some "useful
> > > > idiots,"
> > > > traitors against their own, trying outdo eachother in sucking up.
> > > >
> > > > I have observed Desmond Tutu, among others, during the past few
> weeks
> > > > playing the role of Uncle Tom and making a fool of himself in the
> > > western
> > > > media. I used to have some respect for the man but now I say: He can
> > > > go hang
> > > > too! Like the caption on the poster of Malcolm X hanging in my
> sitting
> > > > room
> > > > reads: "No compromise, No sellout!"
> > > >
> > > > Yes, I have observed how Thabo never abandoned Zimbabwe, for this is
> > > > first
> > > > and foremost about Zimbabwe and not about Mugabe as they want us to
> > > > believe.
> > > > I hope M'beki wags a finger at Tsvangarai and tell him to stop
> monkeying
> > > > around, playing the poster boy of the west and put the interests of
> > > > the poor
> > > > and long suffering people of Zimbabwe first.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Kabir.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 3/30/07, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> Kabir,
> > > >>
> > > >> Thanks for this forward. I was waiting to see just what the SADC
> > > leaders
> > > >> will say and it is about time. It is to be noted that South Africa
> > > >> has never
> > > >> abandoned Zimbabwe and have never bought into the propaganda
> bandwagon
> > > >> disguised as "concern for the people of Zimbabwe" Their experience
> > > under
> > > >> years of brutal apartheid has seen to that.
> > > >>
> > > >> The people of Zimbabwe may have their differences, but after
> decades of
> > > >> apartheid under the old Rhodesian invaders, if the people of
> > > >> Zimbabwee fail
> > > >> to recognize that what is driving this machine disguised as caring
> > > >> for their
> > > >> welfare is a drive to stop the return of the land to it's
> legitimate
> > > >> owners
> > > >> and the reinstatement of the old domination order, they have not
> > > learned
> > > >> anything.
> > > >>
> > > >> As is to be expected, the news was reported here in the U.S with a
> > > twist
> > > >> to misinform but the message in the interview given by one of the
> South
> > > >> African officials could not be disguised even with the spin.
> > > >>
> > > >> Perhaps a lightbulb has finally come on in the heads of at least
> some
> > > of
> > > >> our leaders and it is about time because the project to recolonize
> us
> > > >> is in
> > > >> full force and this time around, it is bathed in perfume to fool
> the
> > > >> people
> > > >> and the sad part is that there are always some Africans who are
> ready
> > > to
> > > >> sell their people and their own souls for a measely price until
> they
> > > >> outlive
> > > >> their usefulness as puppets because that day always comes.
> > > >>
> > > >> Jabou Joh
> > > >>
> > >
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