Am not saying you`re a dibba sympathizer. Am i? So please do not misconceive my message. I am saying that you need to discuss this that issue you`re discussing with me, to Conteh instead of my. That is precisely my brief message to you.
baboucarr Sey <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Bro Ams I am absolutely NOT and let me make that clear, I have never been a fan of Dibba long before switch to Jammeh. Ams am not taking J.Conteh side fra from it, just want you concentrate on the real issue which is bigger than J. Conteh or any of us that wants to a better Gambia.
Cheers
Mbye Sey
ams boye wrote:
Baboucarr,dont u think you`re speaking to the wrong guy here. Just as i told Tunkara, if you guys are so oppossed to "ugly name calling" and mud-slinging" as you frame it, why not take on Conteh. As we were all witnessing the heated debate that went on between himself and Joe, but when Conteh began losing grip he took on board tribalism and some other irrelevant issues into what was suppossed to be a decent and constructive debate on national issues. Can all in this list be sympathizers of the same persons or sets of people (politicians or not)? No. Conteh might be a Dibba sympathizer and so on...... But the buttom fact is that Dibba is an opportunist who mortgaged his party to Jammeh and the APRC in return for money and post. So why should someone be having ulcer when one hails the unlawful arrest of such a person. Who knows if he even did some dirty work for the Jammeh.
In this light, don`t you think you are suppossed to be taking up the issue with Conteh, okay! Come on guys talk to the prick and leave Ams alone. Will you?
baboucarr Sey wrote:
Dear Ams I just want you two to stop this ugly name mud slinging etc etc, that has nothing to do with the main issue every loving Gambian has, bring back the country to the right democratic path. Ams please be focus for a better Gambia.
Cheers
Mbye Sey
ams boye wrote:
Baboucarr, i dont understand what you trying to explain, Can please explain it in the language i can easily understand?
baboucarr Sey wrote: Ams please get focus sideline these finnas it愀 (mandinka word)
Cheers
Mbye Sey
ams boye wrote:
Oh! welcome, Tunkara welcome to the show. I never knew what i wrote was entirely gabbage and thanks for letting me know. And i hope you`ll realize so soon that you are infact a trash, for receiving my gabbage.
All am tellin your comerade here is that he needs to deal with the issue with Joe in a constructive way for the benefit of all here. And if you are oppossed to "ugly name calling" i guess you need to be sorting it out with Conteh and not Me. Where were you when he threw tribalist and damaging comments to this gentleman Joe? My comments were not personal. Were they? So where are you driving towards, Conteh knew very well that i responded to what he wrote about Joe in an objective way and within the boundries of constructive engagement. If not why didn`t he throw a response, but instead you have the guts to, on his behalf.
I don`t know who Conteh is neither am i aware of his "credentials and accomplishments" as u state it, but all i know is that Joe is a man of substance and intergrity and that he have done something for Gambia. Haven`t he? And you are yet to reveal to us those of mr Conteh, so just go on with the assignment. Will you?
By the way what "good Gambian manners are you talking about"? I f Conteh possesed any would he have encountered the gentleman the way he did, and i even question if you even posses any of these manners you`re bubbling about.
Lang Tunkara wrote:
Conteh:
Please do not get yourself in this garbage. We have many serious things
affecting us, our nation than to get ourselves into this ugly name calling.
You may not be the football star from saint augustine, the young african
zone two player, but yourself and those around you very well know who you
are, your credentials, and accomplishments. The Gambia-L is not the place
to show off about that. Just be your humble self and do the things that you
do, and do them well. God watches all of us.
What is important now is how to fix the state of things in the Gambia. How
can we as people and citizens help to bring sanity to the nations is the big
issue we need to be focusing on.
Please, please, please, ignore those who engage in personal attack,
especially those who come with such foul languages. I wonder what happen to
the good Gambian manners, atleast the manners that some of us were taught to
adhere to.
Lang.
>From: ams boye
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: JOE PLEASE IGNORE THIS FOOL (JASSEY) HE IS AN EMPTY HEAD.....
>Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2006 06:56:35 +0100
>
>Mr Jassey, hold on! i`m kind of lost here. Is this not the man that used to
>call Jammeh a tribalist? Come on speak out, loud up! Explain to folks here
>how you took a 180 degrees turn over-night to embrace the same tribalism
>you criticized?
> The issue here is got absolutely nothing to do with peoples life history
>or family background, it seems you taking it too personal. And we could all
>see Joe wrestling you down in an intellectual forum in an objective and
>practical approach.
> No wonder all you could grip on to is that which belongs to those of an
>inferior academic and intellectual mental capability; Tribalism.
> You are just turning yourself into a bloody lair! aren`t you.
>Associating Joe`s family ties to Harry. I bet you cannot prove that this
>gentleman is related to Harry, all you could say is that they`re both
>Sambou`s. I see no sense in thinking that they`re related simply because
>they`re having the same surnames. If this is so then how about telling your
>brothers Lang & Lie Conteh to return to the Gambian people what they stole
>from them.Just to inform you "empty head" these two peole are not related ,
>but that`s not important as far as we are concerned here.
> Atleast this Joe could be remembered for being a football player, a star
>player for that matter at saint Augustine`s, young Africans and also played
>for the gambia even at zone 2 competition, that`s credit for him. And go to
>St Augustine`s you`ll find his picture there as the captain of the school
>team that defeated st Michael`s a school in senegal in a football encounter
>in senegal. You see, this is a man of substance, and he is academically
>potent and a masters degree holder for that matter. A successful man in
>life, and a man of great personality.
> You see we need to be encountering eachother diplomatically.
> And you in person should stop being a dummy...will you?
>
>
>
>Jassey Conteh wrote:
>As a product of Saint Augustine's High School, together with other friends,
>Harry Sambou
>also a product of Saint Augustine's High School is related to Joe Sambou.
>Before Joe can
>preach his political intolerance, he needs to persuade his dear brother to
>resign from
>NIA.
>
>Also, I knew a lady related to Joe who used to sell palm wine at Dippa
>Kunda. How did
>I know her? Well, she used to visit the late Fa Ansumana Sambou, a
>Karoninka in Faraba
>Banta, to purchase her inventory of palm wine. The late Fa Ansumana Sambou
>was also a good
>palm oil maker. I met her there together with many of Joe's relatives when
>my relatives sent
>to buy palm oil for them.
>
>As a matter of fact, the late Mr. Sambou was in our Kabilo. Also, when he
>died some of
>his family members moved to Faji Kunda.
>
>Naphiyo
>Comrade Jassey Conteh
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
> >From: Joe Sambou
> >Sent: Apr 10, 2006 5:18 PM
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS:SPEAKER MUSTAPHA DIBBA, NIA'S NGORR SECKA,
>MARIAM DENTON
> >
> >"I just want to know whether it is true the gentleman is related to Harry
> >Sambou? Please if that is the truth why not jump on the phone and call
>the
> >brother strengthening the hand of the devil. All Jammeh's dirty work is
> >done by Harry Sambou at al than decent folks like you and me who don't
> >subscribe to the erosion of human rights violation folding in our
>country."
> >
> >Now, I can either help you with your inquiry or I keep address other
>things
> >as you suggesting, but I can't do both. Nothing personal Abdou, and
>nothing
> >is sacred either to be discussed. It is also your responsibility as a
> >Gambian to also school some of us about Harry Sambou, for I do not know
>this
> >guy from Adam, but am interested in his shananigans with Murder Inc. As
>for
> >the nonsense you are talking about, I guess I am not addressing what is
> >happening in Gambia. Darn, what was I thinking, not talking about Yaya!
>If
> >you think this is not important, why you request the above?
> >
> >Chi Jaama
> >
> >Joe
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: abdoukarim sanneh
> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >>
> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS:SPEAKER MUSTAPHA DIBBA, NIA'S NGORR SECKA,
> >>MARIAM DENTON
> >>Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:47:31 -0700
> >>
> >>Joe,
> >> For your information, I am busy with my final month at The university
>of
> >>Bolton but also folding events with keen interest. I am move concern
>about
> >>Yaya Jammeh's madness than the issues of tribal politics. I will comment
>if
> >>irresponsible and deep rooted tribal surface on comment on features back
> >>home period. We are a distant voices with differnt opinion, what matters
> >>now is to focus on Jammeh's crime with impunity than associating Jasseh
> >>Conteh with Sheriff Dibba and the past. Joe, for many years we have been
> >>struggling to arrest Yaya Jammeh's madness. Why are you alway turning it
> >>personal. I don't want to question your zeal and determination but most
>a
> >>times, joe you turn the debate personal. You have to grow up your
>childish
> >>tendency makes me to label you as a self claim activist. It is not Joe
> >>Sambou I used to phone two or three years ago. Now that Haruna have a
> >>project to restore the missing link for a united coalition, I hope we
>have
> >>to forget and forgive the
> >> irresponsible comment and work for the wat forward. The 2006 is the
>last
> >>chance for Gambia. The signs are historical realistic to save our people
> >>from living on the edge of endless political conflict as happening in
>other
> >>part of our sub region.
> >>
> >>Joe Sambou wrote:
> >> I was wondering where you were for I have not seen your brilliant
> >>analysis
> >>lately. I see you smelt death in the air a the vultures have begun to
> >>circulate. Naah Abdou! Good that you woke up though. While you are
>awake,
> >>we are talking about Sheriff Dibba, just so you know. I will hate for
>you
> >>to start talking about tribalism and circumstance and confuse us all in
>the
> >>process.
> >>
> >>Chi Jaama
> >>
> >>Joe
> >>
> >>
> >> >From: abdoukarim sanneh
> >> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >> >
> >> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >> >Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS:SPEAKER MUSTAPHA DIBBA, NIA'S NGORR SECKA,
> >> >MARIAM DENTON
> >> >Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:00:33 -0700
> >> >
> >> >Mr Conteh,
> >> > I just want to know whether it is true the gentleman is related to
>Harry
> >> >Sambou? Please if that is the truth why not jump on the phone and call
> >>the
> >> >brother strengthening the hand of the devil. All Jammeh's dirty work
>is
> >> >done by Harry Sambou at al than decent folks like you and me who don't
> >> >subscribe to the erosion of human rights violation folding in our
> >>country.
> >> >We just want to express our humble opinion because the essence of
> >>democarcy
> >> >is to tell people what they don't want to hear but so-called self
> >>proclaim
> >> >activist react to issues in a different fashion. It is better if we
>can
> >> >focus our attention on Jammeh's crime with impunity.
> >> >
> >> >Jassey Conteh wrote:
> >> > First of all, the L is not the venue to decently engage objectively.
> >> >Secondly, your
> >> >dear brother Harry Sambou at NIA is doing a nasty job in intimidating
> >> >Gambians.
> >> >
> >> >Before you jump on me, plead with your brother to resign from his
>post.
> >> >Maybe
> >> >sanity may come to the Gambia.
> >> >
> >> >The Gambia is not the same anymore.
> >> >Naphiyo,
> >> >Comrade Jassey-Conteh
> >> >
> >> >-----Original Message-----
> >> > >From: Joe Sambou
> >> > >Sent: Apr 10, 2006 12:19 PM
> >> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> >> > >Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS:SPEAKER MUSTAPHA DIBBA, NIA'S NGORR
>SECAKA,
> >> >MARIAM DENTON AND OTHERS ARRESTED!!!
> >> > >
> >> > >Conteh, Conteh, Conteh, how can you miss this low hanging fruit? How
> >>does
> >> > >this enable Yaya in any way? I do not expect you to speak against
>your
> >> > >mentor, but I do not see why you always see a divided people, even
>in
> >>the
> >> > >case of your mentor. Is this not the problem of Gambia - nepotism?
>You
> >> >can
> >> > >talk about others or other things, but not your mentor who fell
>favor
> >> >with
> >> > >his benefactor. Yes, an injustice to any gambian is an injustice to
> >>all,
> >> > >but that does not preclude us from talking about the character that
>is
> >> > >Sheriff Dibba, does it?
> >> > >
> >> > >Chi Jaama
> >> > >
> >> > >Joe
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >>From: Jassey Conteh
> >> > >>Reply-To: Jassey Conteh
> >> > >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >> > >>Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS:SPEAKER MUSTAPHA DIBBA, NIA'S NGORR
>SECAKA,
> >> > >>MARIAM DENTON AND OTHERS ARRESTED!!!
> >> > >>Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 11:43:22 -0400
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Mr. Darboe:
> >> > >>
> >> > >>By taking such an assertion, your statements would enable Jammeh to
> >> > >>continue on.
> >> > >>At this point in the struggle, an injustice done to any Gambian is
> >> > >>injustice for all
> >> > >>Gambians.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>As we continue to be divided, Jammeh continues to control and
> >>intimidate
> >> > >>Gambians.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Naphiyo,
> >> > >>Comrade Jassey-Conteh
> >> > >>
> >> > >>-----Original Message-----
> >> > >> >From: Lamin Darbo
> >> > >> >Sent: Apr 7, 2006 2:33 PM
> >> > >> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >> > >> >Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS:SPEAKER MUSTAPHA DIBBA, NIA'S NGORR
> >>SECAKA,
> >> > >>MARIAM DENTON AND OTHERS ARRESTED!!!
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >Mr Sidibeh:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > What got into SM?
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > I bet we are dealing with another fabrication, assuming of
>course
> >>the
> >> > >>gist of Mr Mbai's story on the Dibba angle is accurate.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > As you are aware, the impeachment procedure is a constitutional
> >>coup,
> >> > >>and therefore depends wholly on a governmental system grounded in
>the
> >> >rule
> >> > >>of law with its concommittant instrument of checks and balances
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > To tread on the impeachment territory in our current political
> >> >reality
> >> > >>is at best suicidal. I don't think Mr Dibba has any suicidal
> >> >inclination.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > That said, it is my contention he deserves his plight, and more.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > LJDarbo
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >Momodou S Sidibeh wrote:
> >> > >> > Mr. Mbai,
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >Many many thanks for feeding us with news in these very troubled
> >>times
> >> >in
> >> > >> >Gambia.
> >> > >> >You wrote:
> >> > >> >"..Sources hinted that speaker Dibba was arrested at 2pm on
>Thursday
> >> >for
> >> > >> >allegedly working with MPS for possible impeachement of President
> >> > >>Jammeh.."
> >> > >> >Well, since when did it become a crime to try to impeach a
> >>persident?
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >As sensational as this sounds, it ought to have been a tactic
>used
> >>by
> >> >the
> >> > >> >Opposition long ago. Even if they should fail in their bid to
> >>impeach
> >> > >> >Jammeh, it would have signaled an important challenge to an
> >> >unmitigated
> >> > >> >tyrant. Standing up to a bully is the first law of resistance!
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >Cheers,
> >> > >> >sidibeh
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> >P.S
> >> > >> >I must admit though, that I cannot stop wondering about old Mr.
> >> >Dibba's
> >> > >> >new-found source of courage. What has inspired him to initiate
>such
> >>a
> >> > >> >high-risk covert operation, if indeed it turns out to be true?
>Chei
> >> > >>Gambia!!
> >> > >> >modou
> >> > >> >
> >> > >>
> >> >
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