Abdoukarim, don`t you think you`re misunderstanding Joe here. He`s not denying the fact that Dibbo was illegally detained, all he`s trying to fix up here and put straight is that Dibbo indeed supported Jammeh, and had sufficient knowledge that Jammeh committed so much injustice against decent folks including the murder of Deyda. So i think both of your ideas are parallel to eachother. So it seems to me both are sending the same od if not similar messages. Except that Joe is at the same time standing by the fact that of the illegality of the detain and Dibbo`s support fo the "CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE".
abdoukarim sanneh <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Joe,
I stand by for my comment. Illegal detention of any individual pro or against Yahya Jammeh without trial should be condemn. I will never subscribe to human rights committed against any citizen.
Joe Sambou wrote:
Oh get lost with the hypocrisy and shoot straight for God sake! Sheriff
Dibba was the Speaker of our NA, thus if we cannot discuss him who can we?
The man is illegally detained, is it too much to ask his second fiddle to
shed light on that? Besides, why can't we be able to say yes, he is
illegally detained, and at the same time point out that the man supported
this murderer when the murderer murdered Deyda and others, right under his
watch? Our discussing Sheriff has no bearing on whether he is detained or
released, so, where are you going with that?
Well, Conteh knows I am no stranger to him, and this will not be our last,
as long as he is the character he is. It is also refreshing to see that his
students always hang on his coat-tail, especially when he is lacking in
substance.
Chi Jaama
Joe
>From: abdoukarim sanneh
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS:SPEAKER MUSTAPHA DIBBA, NIA'S NGORR SECKA,
>MARIAM DENTON
>Date: Thu, 13 Apr 2006 13:06:15 -0700
>
>Joe,
> I think it is better for both of you to drop the personal attach and
>focus on the issue. Sheriff Dibba is in mile two prison et al. The illegal
>arrest of any Gambian should be condemn or not rejoice. I know Sheriff
>Dibba did a lot of historical mistake and many of us will never forgive
>him for that. The facts is that his arrest is illegal and we should condemn
>any human rights violation inflicted on any Gambia be it pro or anti jammeh
>period.
>
>Joe Sambou wrote:
> Well, well, well! Now I am not a snitch for Yaya, which you knew for
>years
>you said. Now, I am also related to your "Ansu Sambou". So, how can you on
>the one hand say that "Ansu Sambou" told you that there are no Sambou's who
>are Jola's but now you saying that Ansu Sambou know my relatives.
>
>Related or not, I will discuss Harry or any other Gambian that is part of
>the destruction of that country, including your mentor, Sheriffo Dibba.
>After all these days rambling, why can't you even bring yourself to
>discussing his detention? All I asked was for you to shed light on what
>went down, but alas.
>
>Jolas and others sell wine, just as Banjul Breweries, so what? That is not
>a crime, is it? Now that we went over that hump, what happened to Sheriffo?
>Why is he in jail? You going to use a twig from that "Olive Branch" of
>yours to appeal to Yaya to let your mentor go? Harry is a sycophant, just
>like your mentor. Learn to be balanced Conteh and stop being a cracker.
>
>Chi Jaama
>
>Joe
>
>
> >From: Jassey Conteh
> >Reply-To: Jassey Conteh
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS:SPEAKER MUSTAPHA DIBBA, NIA'S NGORR SECKA,
> >MARIAM DENTON
> >Date: Tue, 11 Apr 2006 08:04:35 -0400
> >
> >As a product of Saint Augustine's High School, together with other
>friends,
> >Harry Sambou
> >also a product of Saint Augustine's High School is related to Joe Sambou.
> >Before Joe can
> >preach his political intolerance, he needs to persuade his dear brother
>to
> >resign from
> >NIA.
> >
> >Also, I knew a lady related to Joe who used to sell palm wine at Dippa
> >Kunda. How did
> >I know her? Well, she used to visit the late Fa Ansumana Sambou, a
> >Karoninka in Faraba
> >Banta, to purchase her inventory of palm wine. The late Fa Ansumana
>Sambou
> >was also a good
> >palm oil maker. I met her there together with many of Joe's relatives
>when
> >my relatives sent
> >to buy palm oil for them.
> >
> >As a matter of fact, the late Mr. Sambou was in our Kabilo. Also, when he
> >died some of
> >his family members moved to Faji Kunda.
> >
> >Naphiyo
> >Comrade Jassey Conteh
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Joe Sambou
> > >Sent: Apr 10, 2006 5:18 PM
> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS:SPEAKER MUSTAPHA DIBBA, NIA'S NGORR SECKA,
> >MARIAM DENTON
> > >
> > >"I just want to know whether it is true the gentleman is related to
>Harry
> > >Sambou? Please if that is the truth why not jump on the phone and call
> >the
> > >brother strengthening the hand of the devil. All Jammeh's dirty work is
> > >done by Harry Sambou at al than decent folks like you and me who don't
> > >subscribe to the erosion of human rights violation folding in our
> >country."
> > >
> > >Now, I can either help you with your inquiry or I keep address other
> >things
> > >as you suggesting, but I can't do both. Nothing personal Abdou, and
> >nothing
> > >is sacred either to be discussed. It is also your responsibility as a
> > >Gambian to also school some of us about Harry Sambou, for I do not know
> >this
> > >guy from Adam, but am interested in his shananigans with Murder Inc. As
> >for
> > >the nonsense you are talking about, I guess I am not addressing what is
> > >happening in Gambia. Darn, what was I thinking, not talking about Yaya!
> >If
> > >you think this is not important, why you request the above?
> > >
> > >Chi Jaama
> > >
> > >Joe
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>From: abdoukarim sanneh
> > >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > >>
> > >>To: [log in to unmask]
> > >>Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS:SPEAKER MUSTAPHA DIBBA, NIA'S NGORR SECKA,
> > >>MARIAM DENTON
> > >>Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:47:31 -0700
> > >>
> > >>Joe,
> > >> For your information, I am busy with my final month at The university
> >of
> > >>Bolton but also folding events with keen interest. I am move concern
> >about
> > >>Yaya Jammeh's madness than the issues of tribal politics. I will
>comment
> >if
> > >>irresponsible and deep rooted tribal surface on comment on features
>back
> > >>home period. We are a distant voices with differnt opinion, what
>matters
> > >>now is to focus on Jammeh's crime with impunity than associating
>Jasseh
> > >>Conteh with Sheriff Dibba and the past. Joe, for many years we have
>been
> > >>struggling to arrest Yaya Jammeh's madness. Why are you alway turning
>it
> > >>personal. I don't want to question your zeal and determination but
>most
> >a
> > >>times, joe you turn the debate personal. You have to grow up your
> >childish
> > >>tendency makes me to label you as a self claim activist. It is not Joe
> > >>Sambou I used to phone two or three years ago. Now that Haruna have a
> > >>project to restore the missing link for a united coalition, I hope we
> >have
> > >>to forget and forgive the
> > >> irresponsible comment and work for the wat forward. The 2006 is the
> >last
> > >>chance for Gambia. The signs are historical realistic to save our
>people
> > >>from living on the edge of endless political conflict as happening in
> >other
> > >>part of our sub region.
> > >>
> > >>Joe Sambou wrote:
> > >> I was wondering where you were for I have not seen your brilliant
> > >>analysis
> > >>lately. I see you smelt death in the air a the vultures have begun to
> > >>circulate. Naah Abdou! Good that you woke up though. While you are
> >awake,
> > >>we are talking about Sheriff Dibba, just so you know. I will hate for
> >you
> > >>to start talking about tribalism and circumstance and confuse us all
>in
> >the
> > >>process.
> > >>
> > >>Chi Jaama
> > >>
> > >>Joe
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >From: abdoukarim sanneh
> > >> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > >> >
> > >> >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >> >Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS:SPEAKER MUSTAPHA DIBBA, NIA'S NGORR
>SECKA,
> > >> >MARIAM DENTON
> > >> >Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 13:00:33 -0700
> > >> >
> > >> >Mr Conteh,
> > >> > I just want to know whether it is true the gentleman is related to
> >Harry
> > >> >Sambou? Please if that is the truth why not jump on the phone and
>call
> > >>the
> > >> >brother strengthening the hand of the devil. All Jammeh's dirty work
> >is
> > >> >done by Harry Sambou at al than decent folks like you and me who
>don't
> > >> >subscribe to the erosion of human rights violation folding in our
> > >>country.
> > >> >We just want to express our humble opinion because the essence of
> > >>democarcy
> > >> >is to tell people what they don't want to hear but so-called self
> > >>proclaim
> > >> >activist react to issues in a different fashion. It is better if we
> >can
> > >> >focus our attention on Jammeh's crime with impunity.
> > >> >
> > >> >Jassey Conteh wrote:
> > >> > First of all, the L is not the venue to decently engage
>objectively.
> > >> >Secondly, your
> > >> >dear brother Harry Sambou at NIA is doing a nasty job in
>intimidating
> > >> >Gambians.
> > >> >
> > >> >Before you jump on me, plead with your brother to resign from his
> >post.
> > >> >Maybe
> > >> >sanity may come to the Gambia.
> > >> >
> > >> >The Gambia is not the same anymore.
> > >> >Naphiyo,
> > >> >Comrade Jassey-Conteh
> > >> >
> > >> >-----Original Message-----
> > >> > >From: Joe Sambou
> > >> > >Sent: Apr 10, 2006 12:19 PM
> > >> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >> > >Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS:SPEAKER MUSTAPHA DIBBA, NIA'S NGORR
> >SECAKA,
> > >> >MARIAM DENTON AND OTHERS ARRESTED!!!
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Conteh, Conteh, Conteh, how can you miss this low hanging fruit?
>How
> > >>does
> > >> > >this enable Yaya in any way? I do not expect you to speak against
> >your
> > >> > >mentor, but I do not see why you always see a divided people, even
> >in
> > >>the
> > >> > >case of your mentor. Is this not the problem of Gambia - nepotism?
> >You
> > >> >can
> > >> > >talk about others or other things, but not your mentor who fell
> >favor
> > >> >with
> > >> > >his benefactor. Yes, an injustice to any gambian is an injustice
>to
> > >>all,
> > >> > >but that does not preclude us from talking about the character
>that
> >is
> > >> > >Sheriff Dibba, does it?
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Chi Jaama
> > >> > >
> > >> > >Joe
> > >> > >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >>From: Jassey Conteh
> > >> > >>Reply-To: Jassey Conteh
> > >> > >>To: [log in to unmask]
> > >> > >>Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS:SPEAKER MUSTAPHA DIBBA, NIA'S NGORR
> >SECAKA,
> > >> > >>MARIAM DENTON AND OTHERS ARRESTED!!!
> > >> > >>Date: Sat, 8 Apr 2006 11:43:22 -0400
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>Mr. Darboe:
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>By taking such an assertion, your statements would enable Jammeh
>to
> > >> > >>continue on.
> > >> > >>At this point in the struggle, an injustice done to any Gambian
>is
> > >> > >>injustice for all
> > >> > >>Gambians.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>As we continue to be divided, Jammeh continues to control and
> > >>intimidate
> > >> > >>Gambians.
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>Naphiyo,
> > >> > >>Comrade Jassey-Conteh
> > >> > >>
> > >> > >>-----Original Message-----
> > >> > >> >From: Lamin Darbo
> > >> > >> >Sent: Apr 7, 2006 2:33 PM
> > >> > >> >To: [log in to unmask]
> > >> > >> >Subject: Re: BREAKING NEWS:SPEAKER MUSTAPHA DIBBA, NIA'S NGORR
> > >>SECAKA,
> > >> > >>MARIAM DENTON AND OTHERS ARRESTED!!!
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >Mr Sidibeh:
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > What got into SM?
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > I bet we are dealing with another fabrication, assuming of
> >course
> > >>the
> > >> > >>gist of Mr Mbai's story on the Dibba angle is accurate.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > As you are aware, the impeachment procedure is a
>constitutional
> > >>coup,
> > >> > >>and therefore depends wholly on a governmental system grounded in
> >the
> > >> >rule
> > >> > >>of law with its concommittant instrument of checks and balances
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > To tread on the impeachment territory in our current political
> > >> >reality
> > >> > >>is at best suicidal. I don't think Mr Dibba has any suicidal
> > >> >inclination.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > That said, it is my contention he deserves his plight, and
>more.
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> > LJDarbo
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >Momodou S Sidibeh wrote:
> > >> > >> > Mr. Mbai,
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >Many many thanks for feeding us with news in these very
>troubled
> > >>times
> > >> >in
> > >> > >> >Gambia.
> > >> > >> >You wrote:
> > >> > >> >"..Sources hinted that speaker Dibba was arrested at 2pm on
> >Thursday
> > >> >for
> > >> > >> >allegedly working with MPS for possible impeachement of
>President
> > >> > >>Jammeh.."
> > >> > >> >Well, since when did it become a crime to try to impeach a
> > >>persident?
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >As sensational as this sounds, it ought to have been a tactic
> >used
> > >>by
> > >> >the
> > >> > >> >Opposition long ago. Even if they should fail in their bid to
> > >>impeach
> > >> > >> >Jammeh, it would have signaled an important challenge to an
> > >> >unmitigated
> > >> > >> >tyrant. Standing up to a bully is the first law of resistance!
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >Cheers,
> > >> > >> >sidibeh
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >> >P.S
> > >> > >> >I must admit though, that I cannot stop wondering about old Mr.
> > >> >Dibba's
> > >> > >> >new-found source of courage. What has inspired him to initiate
> >such
> > >>a
> > >> > >> >high-risk covert operation, if indeed it turns out to be true?
> >Chei
> > >> > >>Gambia!!
> > >> > >> >modou
> > >> > >> >
> > >> > >>
> > >> >
> > >>
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