There you go Angel.  Use the Bible for defense it is sharper than a two edge sword.  Go God!!!!!!!!

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I would rather live my life as if there is a God, and die to find out there isn't, than live my life as if there isn't, and die to find out there is

IN GOD WE TRUST
Karen Carter  '74
-KC- Ministries


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> This is true.  Also, when your own children are calling you all sorts of
> names and such you can look at parents from the bible and say to yourself
> "just look at that.  Now, I am not such a bad parent after all".
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> From: Kathy Du Bois <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, January 23, 2006 6:55 AM
> Subject: Poor Reuben
> 
> 
> > Hey, while you guys are talking about the contributions of Judah and
> > Leah, as I have been re-reading the same story, my heart has gone out
> > to Reuben, for the first time.  When you think about it, that guy
> > really got a raw deal.  I mean, think about it!  He was the first
> > born.  He should have received the blessing, the birth right and up
> > to half of the inheritance, according to Eastern custom.  But, Jacob
> > didn't really like his mother so he ignored the boy.  I suppose that
> > Reuben was a teenager when he decided to get it on with Bilhah, but
> > chances are, that could have been an act of desperation, and
> > frustration on his part.  It was kind of an, in your face, I'm a man
> > now too, sort of thing.   Maybe a kind of "peeing on the father's
> > turf," kind of challenge.  Chris went through that kind of an
> > attitude a lot with us.  Not  toward me necessarily, I just mean that
> > pack mentality attitude  of challenging the leader.  Some boys are
> > just like that.   Then, as he gets older, he is the first brother to
> > plead for Joseph's life and is secretly hoping to be able to sneak
> > Joseph back to Jacob and come off as a hero so that, maybe Jacob will
> > finally notice him and love him and recognize him as a person, but
> > no, that is not to be.  Then, in the end, he gets nothing.  Jacob
> > won't even acknowledge him on his death bed except to say, you
> > screwed up and I'll never forgive you for it, even with one foot in
> > the grave.  Reuben must have ended up a very bitter person.  He had
> > to suck up to his little brother just  to stay alive.  Jacob was
> > really a lousy parent, you know that?  Incredible.  I'll say one
> > thing for the bible, it doesn't hide the truth!
> > Kathy