Phil,
    I will continue praying for her and you all.  I hope and pray she starts
living the Lord's way.

Praying,
Amy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Phil Scovell" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 1:04 PM
Subject: Update On Gretchen


> I had about a 45 minute talk with Gretchen last night.  I gave her to the
> end of the year to decide how she was going to live.  My friend, Keith,
one
> of the guys in our prayer group on Fridays and has known Gretchen since
she
> was little, was also in my office and was witness to all that was said.  I
> primarily gave her till the end of the month because of her children and
it
> being Christmas and all.  What she is supposed to decide on, is how she
> plans to live.  she has to make up her mind if she is going her way or the
> Lord's way.  Because, you see, in this house, we attempt doing it the
Lord's
> way.  If she doesn't wish to live that way, I told her that was fine but
she
> would then have to move out and make it on her own.  I reminded her of all
> the things we do for her, including paying bills that she can't, and many
> other such things.  If, however, she wanted to go back out on her own, it
> would be as she did it before.  without a car, probably without a job
> because my son would likely fire her due to her poor work attendance, no
> cell phone which we pay for, and a whole lot of other things that would no
> longer be available to her.  You see, Gretchen is one of these people who
> has believed so many lies about herself and about her family, she thinks
her
> parents are her problem.  Of course, this isn't true because her parents,
I
> reminded her, are her biggest supporters.  I pointed out, on the other
hand,
> she found this difficult to believe right now because of all the lies she
> believes without even knowing what the lies our.  Maybe I should start
> telling people, when they ask, what do you do for a living?  I should just
> say, I am a lie detector since that is what I am doing when I am praying
> with a person.  The truth is, I only have some experience but Jesus knows
> where ever lie is and boy do they turn up in some of the most unusual
places
> sometimes, too.  At any rate, Gretchen is remaining for the time being but
I
> told her some thing which had to be taken care of if she ended up staying
> and one of those requirements was how she treated her mom.  Keep praying
for
> Gretchen and for us when it comes to mind and we will appreciate it.
>
> Phil.
>
>
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