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Cindy that is a good anaology.  That is how God fills about us.  We can be burdened down tortured and sometimes God allows things to help us and even though he is allowing us hurt he still has that heart felt joy that nothing can take away.

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When Satan is knocking on your door.  Simply say, "Jesus could you get that for me?"
Karen Carter '74



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> People usually see joy and happiness as the same thing but I don't think it is.
> Happy is what I feel when something good happens, or I wake up and the sun is
> shining and its a pretty day, or I get a nice surprise. But I see joy as
> something else...something that can't just be taken...like...my children..they
> are my pride and joy...and even if I'm upset with them, it doesn't change the
> fact that deep inside, they are a joy in my heart...even if I were to loose them
> on this earth, the joy of their presence and life, would forever be embedded in
> my heart, along with the grief of not having them. No one could take that.
>
> cindy
> Sharon Hooley <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I think it's okay to have bad feelings, but what does Jesus mean when He
> said that no one can take away the joy?
>
> Sharon
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cindy H"
> To:
> Sent: Monday, September 26, 2005 4:35 AM
> Subject: Re: depression and other emotional issues
>
>
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> > Rhonda
> > I so agree with what you are saying here. For some reason, ppl think that
> > your not supposed to grieve over what is lost. God knows weather or not I
> > have it together, and my pretending don't fool Him or me.
> >
> > cindy
> >
> > Rhonda
> wrote:
> > Why is it, that some people think that in order to be living a
> > "CVictorious
> > Christian life" one must be perfectly happy all the time. Loosing a
> > daughter at such a young age is hard, grief is normal, why can't people be
> > allowed time to grieve in their own way, to learn to face life as it is
> > now,
> > let go of the past, all the what-ifs, and should-haves, pretending as
> > George's wife seems to be that nothing is wrong isn't helping anyone
> > especially her, I don't know about the rest of you, but I am tired of
> > playing the "I have it all together game" I know a real God, who is bigger
> > than all my real and imagined problems, He is not deminished by my fears,
> > my
> > questions, and He is more than willing to help me, when I awaken at
> > midnight and worry about the fuuture, what might happen, or think of the
> > past, what should have been done, or could have been done, I have
> > somewhere
> > to go, "You shall know the truth and it will set you free"
> > and so I tell God the truth, the truth He already knew, that I am once
> > again
> > in the middle of a war, my doubts and fears seem to be winning, and I am
> > lost somewhere looking for some peace of mind, Rhonda
> >
> >
> > Your White Lily Candle consultant!
> > **Want to know what a day in Heaven is like? Then come to
> > www.heavenscented.com
> > -They may forget what you did but they will never forget how you made them
> > feel.--Carl Buechner
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> > Rhonda
>
> > I so agree with what you are saying here. For some reason, ppl think
> > that your not supposed to grieve over what is lost. God knows weather or
> > not I have it together, and my pretending don't fool Him or me.
>
> >
>
> > cindy
>
> Rhonda <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
>
> > Why is it, that some people think that in
> > order to be living a "CVictorious
> Christian life" one must be perfectly
> > happy all the time. Loosing a
> daughter at such a young age is hard,
> > grief is normal, why can't people be
> allowed time to grieve in their
> > own way, to learn to face life as it is now,
> let go of the past, all
> > the what-ifs, and should-haves, pretending as
> George's wife seems to be
> > that nothing is wrong isn't helping anyone
> especially her, I don't know
> > about the rest of you, but I am tired of
> playing the "I have it all
> > together game" I know a real God, who is bigger
> than all my real and
> > imagined problems, He is not deminished by my fears, my
> questions, and
> > He is more than willing to help me, when I awaken at
> midnight and worry
> > about the fuuture, what might happen, or think of the
> past, what should
> > have been done, or could have been done, I have
> > somewhere
> to go, "You shall know the truth and it will set you
> > free"
> and so I tell God the truth, the truth He already knew, that I am
> > once again
> in the middle of a war, my doubts and fears seem to be
> > winning, and I am
> lost somewhere looking for some peace of mind,
> > Rhonda
>
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > face="arial black"> Your White Lily Candle
> > consultant!
>
> > > face="arial black">**Want to know what a day in
> > Heaven is like? Then come to
>
> > > href="http://www.heavenscented.com/">www.heavenscented.com
> >
>
> > > size=5>-They may forget what you did but they will never forget how you
> > made them feel.--Carl
> > Buechner
>
>
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>
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>  Your White Lily Candle consultant!
> **Want to know what a day in Heaven is like? Then come to
> www.heavenscented.com
> -They may forget what you did but they will never forget how you made them
> feel.--Carl Buechner
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> <DIV>People usually see joy and happiness as the same thing but I don't think it
> is. Happy is what I feel when something good happens, or I wake up and the sun
> is shining and its a pretty day, or I get a nice surprise. But I see joy as
> something else...something that can't just be taken...like...my children..they
> are my pride and joy...and even if I'm upset with them, it doesn't change the
> fact that deep inside, they are a joy in my heart...even if I were to loose them
> on this earth, the joy of their presence and life,&nbsp;would forever be
> embedded in my heart, along with the grief of not having them. No one could take
> that.</DIV>
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
> <DIV>cindy<BR><B><I>Sharon Hooley &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;</I></B>
> wrote:</DIV>
> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px;
> BORDER-LEFT: #1010ff 2px solid">I think it's okay to have bad feelings, but what
> does Jesus mean when He<BR>said that no one can take away the
> joy?<BR><BR>Sharon<BR>----- Original Message -----<BR>From: "Cindy H"
> <[log in to unmask]><BR>To: <[log in to unmask]><BR>Sent:
> Monday, September 26, 2005 4:35 AM<BR>Subject: Re: depression and other
> emotional issues<BR><BR><BR>&gt; --0-1225214318-1127734546=:90720<BR>&gt;
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> 8bit<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Rhonda<BR>&gt; I so agree with what you are saying here.
> For some reason, ppl think that<BR>&gt; your not supposed to grieve over what is
> lost. God knows weather or not I<BR>&gt; have it together, and my pretending
> don't fool Him or me.<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; cindy<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Rhonda
> <[log in to unmask]>wrote:<BR>&gt; Why is it, that some people think that in
> order to be living a<BR>&gt;
>  "CVictorious<BR>&gt; Christian life" one must be perfectly happy all the time.
> Loosing a<BR>&gt; daughter at such a young age is hard, grief is normal, why
> can't people be<BR>&gt; allowed time to grieve in their own way, to learn to
> face life as it is<BR>&gt; now,<BR>&gt; let go of the past, all the what-ifs,
> and should-haves, pretending as<BR>&gt; George's wife seems to be that nothing
> is wrong isn't helping anyone<BR>&gt; especially her, I don't know about the
> rest of you, but I am tired of<BR>&gt; playing the "I have it all together game"
> I know a real God, who is bigger<BR>&gt; than all my real and imagined problems,
> He is not deminished by my fears,<BR>&gt; my<BR>&gt; questions, and He is more
> than willing to help me, when I awaken at<BR>&gt; midnight and worry about the
> fuuture, what might happen, or think of the<BR>&gt; past, what should have been
> done, or could have been done, I have<BR>&gt; somewhere<BR>&gt; to go, "You
> shall know the truth and it will set you free"<BR>&gt;
>  and so I tell God the truth, the truth He already knew, that I am once<BR>&gt;
> again<BR>&gt; in the middle of a war, my doubts and fears seem to be winning,
> and I am<BR>&gt; lost somewhere looking for some peace of mind,
> Rhonda<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt; Your White Lily Candle consultant!<BR>&gt; **Want
> to know what a day in Heaven is like? Then come to<BR>&gt;
> www.heavenscented.com<BR>&gt; -They may forget what you did but they will never
> forget how you made them<BR>&gt; feel.--Carl
> Buechner<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;
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> <DIV>Rhonda</DIV><BR>&gt;
> <DIV>I so agree with what you are saying here. For some reason, ppl
> think<BR>&gt; that your not supposed to grieve over what is lost. God knows
> weather or<BR>&gt; not I have it together, and my pretending don't fool Him or
> me. </DIV><BR>&gt;
> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><BR>&gt;
> <DIV>cindy<BR><BR><B><I>Rhonda &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;</I></B><BR>&gt;
> wrote:</DIV><BR>&gt;
> <BLOCKQUOTE class=replbq style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; br: #1010ff
> 2px solid">Why is it, that some people think that in<BR>&gt; order to be living
> a "CVictorious<BR>Christian life" one must be perfectly<BR>&gt; happy all the
> time. Loosing a<BR>daughter at such a young age is hard,<BR>&gt; grief is
> normal, why can't people be<BR>allowed time to grieve in their<BR>&gt; own way,
> to learn to face life as it is now,<BR>let go of the past, all<BR>&gt; the
> what-ifs, and should-haves, pretending as<BR>George's wife seems to be<BR>&gt;
> that nothing is wrong isn't helping anyone<BR>especially her, I don't
> know<BR>&gt; about the rest of you, but I am tired of<BR>playing the "I have it
> all<BR>&gt; together game" I know a real God, who is bigger<BR>than all my real
> and<BR>&gt; imagined problems, He is not deminished by my fears,
> my<BR>questions, and<BR>&gt; He is more than willing to help me, when I awaken
> at<BR>midnight and worry<BR>&gt; about the fuuture, what might happen, or
>  think of the<BR>past, what should<BR>&gt; have been done, or could have been
> done, I have<BR>&gt; somewhere<BR>to go, "You shall know the truth and it will
> set you<BR>&gt; free"<BR>and so I tell God the truth, the truth He already knew,
> that I am<BR>&gt; once again<BR>in the middle of a war, my doubts and fears seem
> to be<BR>&gt; winning, and I am<BR>lost somewhere looking for some peace of
> mind,<BR>&gt; Rhonda<BR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR><BR>
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