Oh Vinny,
I pray that you are right.
Kathy
At 09:43 AM 6/24/2005, you wrote:
>O Kathy,
>I don't think any of us would even think you are a whiner. I don't believe
>that for one second. We are your family, and a family in the Lord doesn't
>get tired of holding up the arms of one or more of its members.
>I know you are weary, but know that we are supporting you, kathy.
>We all know that your major test today may be our major test tomorrow. None
>of us have anything to say about the frequency or intensity of the test, but
>we all must, throw ourself on the mercy and wisdom of the Lord.
>I know you are doing this.
>If I sound like I am lecturing, or minimizing your pain, please forgive me.
>I wait with you for God's answer. AS the song says "Don't give up, you're
>on the brink of a miracle.
>With LOve and prayers.
>
>
> Vinny
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 4:22 PM
>Subject: Re: how it went.
>
>
> > Hey Vinny,
> > No, I know that life isn't easy and I"m sorry for being such a winer, if
> > that's the way that it is coming across. Sometimes, I hesitate to post
> > because my life just sounds so crazy compared to other people who are
> > posting. I really fear that other listers are going to grow tired of the
> > drama here in Maine. I know that there is no instant fix short of Christ,
> > but this has been building for four years and I'm just growing weary. I
> > right to you guys to be my Aaron, and Hurr, holding up my hands toward
> > victory because I am growing tired in the fight.
> > Kathy
> >
> > At 04:57 PM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
> > >Kathy,
> > >I have also seen where when God has his hand on someone, he'll just let
>the
> > >go for so long, until they come to themself. God has a much longer range
>of
> > >vision than we have. I'm sure Phil and Sandi would have liked to have
>given
> > >up on Gretchen along time ago, but look at her now.
> > >No, it doesn't make what you are going through any easier, I know that,
>but
> > >then, (and I say this in humility) did The Lord ever say it would be
>easy?
> > >Oh, yes, the prosperity preachers and other false prophets have
>conditioned
> > >north American Christians to believe that all you had to do is to say yes
>to
> > >Jesus and there would be no suffering and then one day we would all be
> > >whisked off to heaven. Wrong.
> > >
> > >Much love and prayers for you all,
> > >
> > > Vinny
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 12:07 PM
> > >Subject: Re: how it went.
> > >
> > >
> > > > Thanks Vinny,
> > > > It is just so heart breaking to watch all this. I can't imagine how
>God
> > > > does it so much with all of us: watch us use our free will to be
>stupid!
> > > > Kathy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > At 02:53 PM 6/23/2005, you wrote:
> > > > >Hi Kathy,
> > > > >Well, I'm not a parent, and never have been, but frankly, I have to
>say
> > >that
> > > > >I would continue to monitor and not say a word.
> > > > >Kind of like what the Lord does with those he is trying to catch. He
> > > > >watches, and watches, and gives people more rope than they need to
>hang
> > > > >themselves. You know the Scripture in Peter where it says that God
>is
> > >not
> > > > >slack, as some men count slackness etc.
> > > > >There is another scripture somewhere which begins "with the pure,
>thou
> > >wilt
> > > > >show thyself pure. it ends that witht eh froward, God will show
>himself
> > > > >Froward etc.
> > > > >People only think they are getting away with stuff, but it will catch
>up
> > > > >with them, for sure.
> > > > >Keep diligent until he is 18, or till he gets in more trouble than he
>can
> > > > >wiggle out of.
> > > > > From a non-parent.
> > > > >Vinny
> > > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > > >From: "Kathy Du Bois" <
> > > > >[log in to unmask]
> > > > > >
> > > > >To: <
> > > > >[log in to unmask]
> > > > > >
> > > > >Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 5:02 AM
> > > > >Subject: How it went.
> > > > > > Hi guys,
> > > > > > Well, I told you that there would be twists and turns.
>Chris
> > > > >passed the
> > > > > > drug test. That really shocked us until we got home and monitered
>his
> > > > > > calls to his girlfriend and his druggy friend and learned that he
> > >cheated
> > > > > > and put water in the cup. His girlfriends had told him to make
>sure
> > >that
> > > > > > it was warm, not cold. Chris followed her advice and got another
> > >clean
> > > > > > report. Now he thinks that he's in the clear until his court date
> > >July
> > > > > > 12th. Last night, I overheard him trying to meet up with another
> > >dealer
> > > > >to
> > > > > > get some weed. Chris is getting money because he is doing some
>odd
> > >jobs
> > > > > > for our neighbor, who doesn't have the greatest reputation either.
> > >this
> > > > > > guy pays Chris in cash so we never see it. chris doesn't tell us
>how
> > >much
> > > > > > he is getting, so we can't put a finger on how much he has so he
>can
> > >keep
> > > > > > trying to get weed, but pretend to be innocent with us. It's
>crazy
> > > > >making.
> > > > > > I have to admit that, for me, yesterday was a real cricess
> > >moment
> > > > >in my
> > > > > > faith. I believe that we did all the right things. We tried to
>have
> > > > > > him hold Chris accountable and face the consequences of his
>actions.
> > > > >Now,
> > > > > > I wrestle with the question of, "why?" It's that same old
>question
> > >that
> > > > > > God doesn't usually answer, but I'm puzzling over why God let
>Chris
> > >get
> > > > > > away with this? I'm feeling let down by Him!
> > > > > > Another issue that Greg and I are wrestling with is
>whether or
> > >not
> > > > >we
> > > > > > should let Chris know that he is being monitered so closely by us.
>We
> > > > > > began monitering when Chris started sneaking out in the middle of
>the
> > > > >night
> > > > > > and not telling us where he had been or where he was going and
> > >refusing
> > > > >to
> > > > > > give us the names of his friends. He never seemed to have any
>money a
> > >nd
> > > > > > this was odd since he was earning more than $100 a week. He
> > >wouldn't
> > > > > > talk to us so we started investigating on our own to try to get a
> > >handle
> > > > >on
> > > > > > things. We've managed to get a couple of people busted and we
>have
> > >been
> > > > > > able to continue to be very aware of Chris's activities:
>something we
> > > > >feel
> > > > > > is justified since he is still under our roof and we are still
> > >completely
> > > > > > responsible for him. But, I'm interested in your opinions. Would
>you
> > > > > > tell? Have we fallen into the trap of being deceitful just like
>Chris
> > >is,
> > > > > > or are we doing the right thing? You know, in a way, I think
>about
> > >how
> > > > >God
> > > > > > knows everything too, but He knows what He is doing. He knows
>what
> > >is
> > > > > > right. I need to seek the counsel of others for in that there is
> > >wisdom.
> > > > > > Kathy
> > > > > >
> > > >
> >
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