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I agree with you.  It seems Christians today think the devil is bound to win
in every situation.  I think if you do live together without falling in to
sin it will prove to you more than anything else your love for each other is
not based on mere physical attraction but instead is a heavenly godly love
which will last through the years.  It will also serve as a testament of
your commitment to god's precepts.  I will pray that you be constant in this
commitment which I know you will and that your marriage will last as long as
the firm foundation on which it will be built which is Christ.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jenifer Barr" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: question, problem, and prayer request.


> what is a vow between god and two people?  If we have vowed before God and
> each other that sex will not occur until marriage, then why is living
> together a sin?  We are not intimate until then.  I understand about
> temptation but that's when you pray every day that God keeps you strong.
>
> Our situation is unique and it's not like we haven't prayed about it.  I
> guess I'm just hurt because everyone seems to think that just because
we're
> going to be living together the devel is going to win.  God is the only
one
> in control.  Is this our ideal situation?  no.  I've been through too much
> in the past to know what temptation can do to someone... and i... or yet
> we... will not break our vow before god.
>
> Jenifer Barr.
> When the trumpet blows... I'm outta here!
> AIM: jenibear1998
> msn
> [log in to unmask]
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 2:06 PM
> Subject: Re: question, problem, and prayer request.
>
>
> > Hey Jen,
> >         First of all, I'm sorry that you are dealing with an inflexible
> > pastor.  I don't see what difference it makes to him whether the
cerimony
> > is big or small, before or after the civil cerimony.  I suppose that he
is
> > standing on something for theological reasons, but I have no clue what
> > that
> > would be.  It seems to me that you are left with three options:  switch
> > pastors, move the wedding up,  or leave things as they are and trust God
> > for a miracle.  As a child of God, the one option that you don't have,
is
> > to move in together.  If you begin your marriage by  compromising your
> > principles  on something that is truly small in the grand scheme of
> > things,
> > how can you be trusted for the bigger ones.  Believe me, the one thing
> > that
> > I am learning about our heavenly Father is that he is extremely creative
> > in
> > the solution department.  We often miss it because we get so stuck in
> > thinking that the only solutions available to us are the ones that we
can
> > see and we shut the door on His creativity.  This is a test.  This is
only
> > a test.  The question is, will you trust Him and wait for His solution
and
> > timing or will you continue to see with earthly eyes only what is
> > possible.  Good luck on your adventure.  He is faithful.  Your task is
to
> > remain patient and at peace!  GRIN!
> > Kathy
> >
> >
> >
> > At 05:17 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote:
> >>Hi all.  As most of you know, i am getting married in november.  I found
> >>out
> >>today from work that they want me to transfer in the beginning of
august.
> >>I
> >>can't tell them i won't transfer then because it is the end of our
fiscal
> >>year august 31 and i could forfit my job.  Problem is though, that my
> >>fiancee and I decided that to save money... if i had to move in
september
> >>or
> >>october we would just live together until the wedding.  We both don't
> >>really
> >>like the idea but it's like we have no choice.  I don't know what to do.
> >>I'm so confused... i don't know what is right and wrong.  Both my
fiancee
> >>and I are born-again Christians, we will in no way have sex before
> >>marriage
> >>so if we made/make that pledge to god is living together before marriage
a
> >>sin?  Is it wrong?  And what do i do if it is?  I know of other
christian
> >>couples who have lived together before marriage.  I am just so scattered
> >>right now.  Please pray for clarity for me?  And above all, pray Gods
will
> >>be done.
> >>I love you all.
> >>Jenifer Barr.
> >>When the trumpet blows... I'm outta here!
> >>AIM: jenibear1998
> >>msn
> >>[log in to unmask]
> >

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