Oil is a finite item - eventually we will run out - we need to come with alternatives for it. But its highly doubtful the folks who get filthy rich off oil want that. One way or the other - the day the oil runs out will come. Then what? Mass anarchy? I remember the last oil crisis - what 30 years ago - and what has changed - nada. Because oil makes someone rich and rich people run the government and their interests are taken care of. Longterm planning...........?

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From: St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of ken barber
Sent: Monday, September 05, 2005 10:41 PM
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Subject: Re: Fw: Here's an article on the preparedness of FEMA.


dear mag, they can put an oil well in now that you
could not find if you did not know where it was.
hydrogen cars are a good 20 years to feasably being
sold to the public. electric cars are good for short
range local driving if you hold down the mileage. the
hybrids on the market now is the best bet if they can
get them down a little so that most average people can
aford them.
the idea that business men ant to poison the air and
water that they and their kids have to breath and
drink just like everybody else is irrational.
  i am saying taxes are a big part of the price of
gas. if the government can do anything quickly about
the high prices, that is it. if you don't want prices
to come down, then leave it alone. you know if gas
keeps going up, your food is going to go up, your mass
transit will go up, you name your consumer products
and the cost og fuel will affect it. if you do not
want the only quick fix the government can effect,
then don't critisize any of them from bush down.
  long term we are going to have to quit listening to
irrational groups and build refineries, drill for oil,
build nuclear power plants and other things.
  by the way if you want to put the drilling in anwar
in prospective the 2000 acres where drilling is
proposed compared to all of anwar would be like a
postage stamp on your average living room floor.  and
it is not pristime wilderness, it is a danm sheet of
ice, contrary to what the media portrays.
  like i said this fuel crises now is showing the pure
folly of the politics of the last 20 years or so. and
like i said some of us saw it comming.


--- Magenta Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> it is my understanding that companies have been
> buying up patents for
> alternative energy vehicles but have not yet put
> them on market because
> they want to squeeze every drop of oil money they
> can. So I am not sure if
> drilling for our own oil and messing up the
> environment is the thing to do.
> They are waiting too damn long to put these alt.
> vehicles on market.
>
> My question is, why are you saying  roll back the
> gas tax??
>
> mag
>
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> > [Original Message]
> > From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: 9/5/2005 2:51:32 PM
> > Subject: Re: Fw: Here's an article on the
> preparedness of FEMA.
> >
> > our governor removed state tax from gas here in
> > georgia, write your governor and ask that nc do
> the
> > same. by the way i was in north carolina this
> morning
> > and could have filled up at 3.19.
> > write your congressman and senators and remove the
> > federal tax on gas.
> >
> > but, of course there is a gas shortage. there was
> a
> > short supply before the storm. roughly 25 per cent
> of
> > the countries energy comes from the gulf coast.
> > refineries are under water. we have not built a
> new
> > refinery since 1975. most of the refineries were
> > running at near capicity so those left can't take
> up
> > the slack. this just points up the folly of not
> > drilling for our own oil and building our
> capacity.
> > the very folly of the politics that has blocked
> this
> > for years. some of us saw it comming.
> >
> > --- Kathy <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > We're feeling the effects here in NC too, Bobby
> -
> > > there is a gas shortage
> > > here. too, and I even saw that a gas station
> down
> > > East was charging $4.65 a
> > > gallon!
> > >
> > > Kat
> > >
> > > On Saturday 03 September 2005 3:53 pm, you
> wrote:
> > > > What you are not seeing on national TV are the
> > > collateral problems. For
> > > > instance, the entire city of Memphis is out of
> > > gasoline! I just talked to a
> > > > lady from Baton Rogue and they have a curfew
> > > because of rape and gunfire.
> > > > It doesn't take Einstein to realize to ripple
> > > effect re: pipelines, etc
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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