AMAN Brad. I said that in shorter terms. and Also you are not to comvorm to the world but live as Christ .
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Christ is either Lord of all or he is not Lord at all.
Karen Carter '74
> Do we have a godly biblical example of living together before marriage? It
> is always best, prudent and wise to bring our situations back to scripture
> no matter how it might cut cross grain to us. Their may be situations
> today that may not have existed then, but come to think of it not all that
> many. In any event giving the appearance of evil is not only a concern for
> ourselves, in our own conern of what people may think, but also that of
> all Christians. What if you tried witnessing to a non-believer and they
> said "Don't talk to me about being high and mighty or living righteous, I
> know a christian couple who lived together before marriage, how does that
> differ from non-Christians today?". You see we bare the responsibility of
> wearing Christ-like across our chest when we are known as such, and
> appearing as non-believers with a live-in situation doesn't seem to line
> up biblically or doing as the Word says, to stay away from even the
> appearance of sin, not to mention surposefully put ourselves in
> temptations way no matter how strong we feel our faith is. Psalms 1 says
>
> Ps 1:1-2
> Blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked or stand
> in the way of sinners
> or sit in the seat of mockers. But his delight is in the law of the LORD,
> and on his law he meditates day and night.
>
> Notice the progression of "walk", "stand" and "sit" it cannotes a gradual
> decline if allowed to entertain the ideals of ideals working against the
> law or God's Word.
>
> I saw a message somewhere about if one gives in to a principle as such
> now, how that might affect futre decisoins and ect. I agree. What would
> make a couple stronger, living together because of life's circumstances
> or arranging other means until that day when no holds are preventing a
> couple of living as a married one.
>
> Brad
>
>
>
> on 02:47 AM 7/21/2005, Angel said:
> I agree with you. It seems Christians today think the devil is bound to
> win
> in every situation. I think if you do live together without falling in to
> sin it will prove to you more than anything else your love for each other
> is
> not based on mere physical attraction but instead is a heavenly godly love
> which will last through the years. It will also serve as a testament of
> your commitment to god's precepts. I will pray that you be constant in
> this
> commitment which I know you will and that your marriage will last as long
> as
> the firm foundation on which it will be built which is Christ.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jenifer Barr" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:36 PM
> Subject: Re: question, problem, and prayer request.
>
>
> > what is a vow between god and two people? If we have vowed before God
> and
> > each other that sex will not occur until marriage, then why is living
> > together a sin? We are not intimate until then. I understand about
> > temptation but that's when you pray every day that God keeps you
> strong.
> >
> > Our situation is unique and it's not like we haven't prayed about
> it. I
> > guess I'm just hurt because everyone seems to think that just because
> we're
> > going to be living together the devel is going to win. God is the only
> one
> > in control. Is this our ideal situation? no. I've been through too
> much
> > in the past to know what temptation can do to someone... and i... or
> yet
> > we... will not break our vow before god.
> >
> > Jenifer Barr.
> > When the trumpet blows... I'm outta here!
> > AIM: jenibear1998
> > msn
> > [log in to unmask]
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Kathy Du Bois" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 2:06 PM
> > Subject: Re: question, problem, and prayer request.
> >
> >
> > > Hey Jen,
> > > First of all, I'm sorry that you are dealing with an
> inflexible
> > > pastor. I don't see what difference it makes to him whether the
> cerimony
> > > is big or small, before or after the civil cerimony. I suppose that
> he
> is
> > > standing on something for theological reasons, but I have no clue
> what
> > > that
> > > would be. It seems to me that you are left with three
> options: switch
> > > pastors, move the wedding up, or leave things as they are and trust
> God
> > > for a miracle. As a child of God, the one option that you don't
> have,
> is
> > > to move in together. If you begin your marriage by compromising
> your
> > > principles on something that is truly small in the grand scheme of
> > > things,
> > > how can you be trusted for the bigger ones. Believe me, the one
> thing
> > > that
> > > I am learning about our heavenly Father is that he is extremely
> creative
> > > in
> > > the solution department. We often miss it because we get so stuck in
> > > thinking that the only solutions available to us are the ones that we
> can
> > > see and we shut the door on His creativity. This is a test. This is
> only
> > > a test. The question is, will you trust Him and wait for His
> solution
> and
> > > timing or will you continue to see with earthly eyes only what is
> > > possible. Good luck on your adventure. He is faithful. Your task
> is
> to
> > > remain patient and at peace! GRIN!
> > > Kathy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > At 05:17 PM 7/18/2005, you wrote:
> > >>Hi all. As most of you know, i am getting married in november. I
> found
> > >>out
> > >>today from work that they want me to transfer in the beginning of
> august.
> > >>I
> > >>can't tell them i won't transfer then because it is the end of our
> fiscal
> > >>year august 31 and i could forfit my job. Problem is though, that my
> > >>fiancee and I decided that to save money... if i had to move in
> september
> > >>or
> > >>october we would just live together until the wedding. We both don't
> > >>really
> > >>like the idea but it's like we have no choice. I don't know what to
> do.
> > >>I'm so confused... i don't know what is right and wrong. Both my
> fiancee
> > >>and I are born-again Christians, we will in no way have sex before
> > >>marriage
> > >>so if we made/make that pledge to god is living together before
> marriage
> a
> > >>sin? Is it wrong? And what do i do if it is? I know of other
> christian
> > >>couples who have lived together before marriage. I am just so
> scattered
> > >>right now. Please pray for clarity for me? And above all, pray Gods
> will
> > >>be done.
> > >>I love you all.
> > >>Jenifer Barr.
> > >>When the trumpet blows... I'm outta here!
> > >>AIM: jenibear1998
> > >>msn
> > >>[log in to unmask]
> > >
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