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Anthony Vece <[log in to unmask]>
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Anthony Vece <[log in to unmask]>
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Hi Lou;

I am judging ICOM vs KENWOOD on there hand held radios.

I believe that the W2A and the W32A were far better receivers than anything
KENWOOD ever put out.

I have never used the 706 however, my TS2000 does everything I need it to
do.

73 De Anthony W2AJV
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Louis Kim Kline" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 8:58 AM
Subject: Re: TS-480S vs. IC-746 Pro


> Hello to all.
>
> I am curious how users of the Icom IC746 Pro manage the PL tones.  That is
> the one thing that I haven't been able to handle with the IC706 MkII
> G.  Hence, my '706 gets used on HF, but not VHF/UHF where PL is required
> in
> my area.  Sort of defeats the purpose of buying the radio.
>
> For Kevin, I'm curious about your comments on the TS2000 vs. the
> TS480S.  What weaknesses did you see in the TS2000S receiver?  Although I
> wasn't crazy about the idea of the separate control head for the TS480S
> because the last thing I want in the station is another cable, that is
> something I would overlook in the interest of getting a good performing
> radio, but at the same time I view the interconnecting cable as something
> else to go bad after a little while, like microphone connectors, headphone
> cables, etc.
>
> The only reason I have kept my sights on the TS2000S is the 2 meter and 70
> cm coverage, and the near impossibility of purchasing good all mode
> VHF/UHF
> radios anymore.  Have you looked for them lately?  The Icom IC910H is
> about
> the only thing out there, and at a price where you could pretty much buy a
> Kenwood TS2000S.  If I could still buy radios like the Kenwood TR751A, or
> the TS711 and TS811 at a reasonable price, then I would probably follow
> the
> old adage of keeping my HF radios on HF only, and my VHF stuff on VHF
> only.  Generally, in my experience, the "one size fits all" radios usually
> compromize the receiver performance big time, and it is usually in the
> intermod department on 2 meters and 70 cm.  I am curious to see if this is
> what Kevin found on the '2000.  It is certainly true with my Icom IC706
> MkII G.  The '706 is nearly unusable on 160 meters because of broadcast
> intermod, and it suffers greatly from intermode on 2 meters as well.  Bear
> in mind that I live inside the city of Rochester, NY, so someone who lived
> 25 or 30 miles out would probably have much different results.  But I find
> that the Kenwood TS690S, which is not a DC to daylight radio, does not
> show
> any of the intermod problems on 160 meters [A plug for your radio,
> Butch!].
>
> My last question is for Anthony.  I was curious about your comments about
> Icom vs. Kenwood, because I have had the opposite experience unless you
> get
> up into Icom's more expensive radios.  While my Icom IC735 was a first
> rate
> radio, I have been quite disappointed with the '706, and I honestly have
> not found the Icom IC271H or the IC471H to be anywhere near as good in the
> receiver performance end of things as my Kenwood TR751A or the Kenwood
> TS780, or the Kenwood TS790A.  Guess you can tell that I've owned a bunch
> of these radios over the last 25 years.  Anyway, I am of the belief that
> it
> is usually the receiver that makes the radio.  Almost anyone can build a
> decent transmitter section, but it is the receiver that separates the men
> from the boys or the ladies from the girls.
>
> When I look at a radio, I am looking at three things primarily--is the
> sensitivity such that the signal to noise ratio of weak signals is better
> than on most other radios, are there signals there that don't belong there
> (either from intermod or images), and is the selectivity reasonable (or
> are
> there optional filters to make the selectivity reasonable)?  If I can get
> a
> receiver to meet those three criteria, I am usually pretty happy with the
> radio.  By the way, in my opinion, the '706 comes up short on two out of
> the three--sensitivity and intermod.
>
> That ought to give you folks something to chew on.  I'll be curious to
> hear
> your thoughts, especially from Kevin and Anthony who sound like they have
> had the opportunity to experience and compare some of these radios.
>
> 73, de Lou K2LKK
>
>
> Louis Kim Kline
> A.R.S. K2LKK
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