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Phil Scovell <[log in to unmask]>
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Sun, 10 Apr 2005 10:31:15 -0600
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The Enemy is doing his best to destroy a family.  Jennifer is at the point
the doctor wants to put her on a ventilator.  Jennifer will not decide if
she wants to be resuscitated or placed on a ventilator and when the doctor
asked George about it, George said his hands are tied because his wife
refuses to talk about it.  Unfortunately, later in the week, they discovered
Jennifer, when she was well, over a five month period, took money out of her
savings account to the tune of 5200 dollars.  Jennifer will only say that
she spent the money and will not detail what she spent the money on.  I have
personally felt for many months there was something wrong with Jennifer's
relationship and walk with the Lord.  From age 10 to 20, Jennifer never went
to a hospital once.  When she turned about 10 years of age, she got a job
but also began hanging out with all the wrong people.  A friend of her's got
high one day and literally ran out of his house on to the near by highway in
the path of an oncoming truck.  He was killed instantly.  When George prayed
with his daughter a couple of weeks ago, this came out, along with the fear
Jennifer had, and she admitted to her dad that she had been under such fear
from that day till now, she had to sleep with a light on in her room.  About
this period of time, Jennifer lost her job because 2500 dollars was missing
from her station.  The charges were dropped when the legal system got
involved because George talked to her employer and they agreed to drop all
charges if he paid the money back.  George told me that even in their small
town of about 2800 people, drugs are so bad, there are shootings, murders,
and violent acts like you can't believe.  With crystal meth labs as easy as
they are to set up, drugs have become, in recent years, major problems in
even the smallest of towns.  somehow, Jennifer has gotten in the middle of a
whole lot of things which she refuses to speak about.  Yet, she is literally
at death's door.  She struggles to breathe and grows weaker by the hour.
She has not cried one time that George has seen in the five months they have
been in the hospital.  She has not read her Bible.  she has prayed but only
when George has asked her to pray with him.  Jennifer had not gone to the
hospital for any reason from age ten, when she says she got born again,
until she was 20 years old.  then every other month, she was in the hospital
for two or three weeks and even on intravenous medications at home.  The
people at this hospital say that 97 percent of couples going through this
sort of a thing end up in divorce court.  Yesterday, George's wife blamed
George for some things he felt needed to be said to his daughter and his
wife said she was divorcing him as soon as it was all over.  Last week,
Vivian, George's wife, blamed God and threatened never to speak of His name
again, meaning the name of the Lord, if He, God, didn't keep His promises.
she stopped short of renouncing the Lord.  the only person in this family,
meaning the extended family of one brother and sister of Vivian, who are not
in denial about what is happening is George, his son, who is about 27 or 28
years old, and one of George's sisters who lives out of state but whom
George keeps in touch with daily.  the rest of George's own family never
even bother to call to see what is going on.  So, in a very real sense,
George is all alone.  You may not agree with what I am about to say but it
is in the Bible and it is truth.  First Corinthians 5 says, To deliver such
an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be
saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.  I did not point this passage out to
George; he brought it up himself.  He also knows that the man guilty of the
sin the apostle Paul was talking about later repented and was received back
into fellowship with the church.  Years ago, in the Baptist church, the
church I was attending had an annual missions conference.  I always looked
forward to this conference each year because the missionaries who came to
speak were always outstanding and real spiritual heroes to me as a young
man.  One of the missionaries was from Canada, that is, he and his family
had gone to Canada and served in far north Ontario for many years.  they had
several children.  As he preached one night, he mentioned how many children
he had but then he said that one of his sons was dead.  He explained that
they had approached their son about how he was living, which was ungodly to
say the least, and that they tried to talk to him about how his life style
was bringing reproach to the name of Christ.  They never identified what it
was that he was doing.  the son refused to give up his sin so his father
used First Corinthians 5:5 and within weeks, their son was dead.  I used
this same verse with my daughter years ago but it had no discernable effect
upon her.  I don't recall ever getting up the courage to pray such a prayer
and largely because she had children.  I used the passage, however, to show
my daughter how very serious the Lord considers such behavior among His own
people.  George discussed this passage of Scripture with his daughter but
it, too, had no discernable effect.  It was this conversation George had
with his daughter which caused his wife to announce would, and I quote,
Never forgive him for what he said, and second, she was divorcing him when
this was all over.  I presume she was referring to Jennifer's death.  George
admitted to me yesterday that this is far from the first time his wife has
blamed him for something he wasn't responsible for.  I had told George a few
weeks ago, that unless the Lord was able to minister to Vivian in some way,
she would get around to blaming God first, George second, and me third.
Others, of course will be on the list eventually.  Vivian as literally
substituted her daughter for the Lord, that is, she is placing her daughter
before her relationship with the Lord.  Much of such things have to do with
a person not ever being able to bond with others for some reason or another.
It is usually due to a traumatic experience or some deep woundedness they
experience in younger years which now has created a safe zone around them.
Anyone approaching that safe zone finds out real quick they aren't welcome.
can this happen even in a marriage which has lasted 29 years?  Deception has
no restrictions.  I am telling you all of this because I don't feel you
should know just the good things about this situation.  I want you to see
how the Enemy works to kill, steel, and destroy.  Let me point one other
thing out while I'm on the subject.  I have learned in the 900 hours of
prayer and ministry time I have spent in the past two years, the Enemy
especially likes to go after what the world calls the disabled or the
handicapped.  I could tell you stories you wouldn't believe relating to
people in these categories and guess what?  Many of us fall into that same
classification.  No it isn't fair but the Enemy never ever plays fair.  I'll
be calling George later today to find out what is going on.  His wife isn't
speaking to him at the moment but he goes in and checks on his daughter
frequently.  Otherwise, he stays out of the room.

Phil.

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