My mom told me about a couple who had gone to a church that she and my dad
used to attend. The wife died. I believe their grandson was staying with
them at the time. He was inconsolable because she didn't tell him goodbye.
Then one day he was suddenly happy. He said his grandma came and told him
goodbye.
Sharon
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From: "Karen Carter" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Monday, May 02, 2005 12:18 PM
Subject: Re: death of young and/or people with strong personalities
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> I know what you mean. Some people have a really hard time letting go. I
know when our love ones leave this earth we cannot communicate with them.
Absent from the body present with the Lorrd and we forget everything on
earth. What kind of Heaven would it be if we could see all the hard times
and hurting our loves ones suffer. That is not how Heaven is described.
Sure some of us would love to see or hear from a loved one just one more
time. But it is better to look forward to that blessed reunion with our
Lord. And they are to busy praising (hopefully) the Lord.
>
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> Christ is either Lord of all or he is not Lord at all.
> Karen Carter '74
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> > Phil's message about the family going through the loss of their daughter
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> > put me in mind of this subject.
> > Sounds like this girl Phil speaks of had a terminal condition and her =
> > death was emanate.
> > However, the actions of her mother put me in mind of situations I have =
> > seen where the person who died, did so unexpectedly.
> > One of my cousin's had a very strong personality.
> > Well loved and idolized by many.
> > He was successful in his sport/business as well and traveled around in a
=
> > small plane to see those he trained fight.
> > He died in a crash of his friend's small plane and many people had =
> > strong life like dreams about him, his daughter claimed to communicate =
> > with him and his mother never reconciled his death, if that is the word
=
> > for it.
> > She could not understand how there could be a god who would let =
> > something like that happen.
> > I hear that kind of thing from my friend who doesn't believe in god.
> > If god exists, then why...?
> > Then, I had another cousin who died suddenly and people claimed to have
=
> > odd dreams about him as well.
> > I think that it can happen so unexpectedly that some just have a hard =
> > time dealing with it right away.
> > People don't speak of having dreams about these people anymore.
> > Just seemed like right after there deaths these stories would be told.
> > We can't expect all people to respond to situations the same.
> > It makes it harder on those around them if they respond in a manner such
=
> > as this but I think, given time, they will come to cope with what has =
> > happened.
> > It would be great if everyone could just automatically have a great =
> > faith in god and understanding of the bible and they could deal =
> > comfortably with death, but we can't expect that of everybody.
> > I still have things which belonged to my father and my grandparents, I =
> > don't think people should try to force folks to part with things like =
> > that.
> > Again, if it is something like an answering machine recording, it just =
> > makes it dificults for those who call, but I still don't think it right
=
> > to wrench things like that out of a person's belonging if they are still
=
> > going through a coping process.
> >
> > Matt
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> >
> Sounds like this girl Phil speaks of =
> > had a terminal=20
> > condition and her death was emanate.
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> >
> However, the actions of her mother put =
> > me in mind=20
> > of situations I have seen where the person who died, did so=20
> > unexpectedly.
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> >
> One of my cousin's had a very strong=20
> > personality.
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> >
> Well loved and idolized by =
> > many.
>
> >
> He was successful in his sport/business =
> > as well and=20
> > traveled around in a small plane to see those he trained =
> > fight.
>
> >
> He died in a crash of his friend's =
> > small plane and=20
> > many people had strong life like dreams about him, his daughter claimed
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> > to=20
> > communicate with him and his mother never reconciled his death, if that
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> > is the=20
> > word for it.
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> >
> She could not understand how there =
> > could be a god=20
> > who would let something like that happen.
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> I hear that kind of thing from my =
> > friend who=20
> > doesn't believe in god.
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> >
> If god exists, then =
> > why...?
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> >
> Then, I had another cousin who died =
> > suddenly and=20
> > people claimed to have odd dreams about him as well.
>
> >
> I think that it can happen so =
> > unexpectedly that=20
> > some just have a hard time dealing with it right away.
>
> >
> People don't speak of having dreams =
> > about these=20
> > people anymore.
>
> >
> Just seemed like right after there =
> > deaths these=20
> > stories would be told.
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> >
> We can't expect all people to respond =
> > to situations=20
> > the same.
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> >
> It makes it harder on those around them =
> > if they=20
> > respond in a manner such as this but I think, given time, they will come
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> > to cope=20
> > with what has happened.
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> >
> It would be great if everyone could =
> > just=20
> > automatically have a great faith in god and understanding of the bible =
> > and they=20
> > could deal comfortably with death, but we can't expect that of=20
> > everybody.
>
> >
> I still have things which belonged to =
> > my father and=20
> > my grandparents, I don't think people should try to force folks to part
=
> > with=20
> > things like that.
>
> >
> Again, if it is something like an =
> > answering machine=20
> > recording, it just makes it dificults for those who call, but I still =
> > don't=20
> > think it right to wrench things like that out of a person's belonging if
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> Matt
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> <DIV>I know what you mean. Some people have a really hard time
letting go. I know when our love ones leave this earth we cannot
communicate with them. Absent from the body present with the Lorrd and
we forget everything on earth. What kind of Heaven would it be if we
could see all the hard times and hurting our loves ones suffer. That
is not how Heaven is described. Sure some of us would love to see or
hear from a loved one just one more time. But it is better to look
forward to that blessed reunion with our Lord. And they are to busy
praising (hopefully) the Lord. </DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
> <DIV class=signature id=signature>--<BR>Christ is either Lord of all or he
is not Lord at all. <BR>Karen Carter '74 <BR><BR></DIV>
> <DIV> </DIV>
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <BR>> <BR>> Phil's message
about the family going through the loss of their daughter = <BR>> put me
in mind of this subject. <BR>> Sounds like this girl Phil speaks of had a
terminal condition and her = <BR>> death was emanate. <BR>> However,
the actions of her mother put me in mind of situations I have = <BR>>
seen where the person who died, did so unexpectedly. <BR>> One of my
cousin's had a very strong personality. <BR>> Well loved and idolized by
many. <BR>> He was successful in his sport/business as well and traveled
around in a = <BR>> small plane to see those he trained fight. <BR>>
He died in a crash of his friend's small plane and many people had =
<BR>> strong life like dreams about him, his daughter claimed to
communicate = <BR>> with him and his mother never reconciled his death,
if that is the word = <BR>> for it. <BR>> She could not understand how
there could be a god who would let = <BR>> something like that happen.
<BR>> I hear that kind of thing from my friend who doesn't believe in
god. <BR>> If god exists, then why...? <BR>> Then, I had another
cousin who died suddenly and people claimed to have = <BR>> odd dreams
about him as well. <BR>> I think that it can happen so unexpectedly that
some just have a hard = <BR>> time dealing with it right away. <BR>>
People don't speak of having dreams about these people anymore. <BR>>
Just seemed like right after there deaths these stories would be told.
<BR>> We can't expect all people to respond to situations the same.
<BR>> It makes it harder on those around them if they respond in a manner
such = <BR>> as this but I think, given time, they will come to cope with
what has = <BR>> happened. <BR>> It would be great if everyone could
just automatically have a great = <BR>> faith in god and understanding of
the bible and they could deal = <BR>> comfortably with death, but we
can't expect that of everybody. <BR>> I still have things which belonged
to my father and my grandparents, I = <BR>> don't think people should try
to force folks to part with things like = <BR>> that. <BR>> Again, if
it is something like an answering machine recording, it just = <BR>>
makes it dificults for those who call, but I still don't think it right =
<BR>> to wrench things like that out of a person's belonging if they are
still = <BR>> going through a coping process. <BR>> <BR>> Matt
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> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3>Phil's message about the family going =
<BR>> through the=20 <BR>> loss of their daughter put me in mind of
this subject.</FONT></DIV><BR>>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3>Sounds like this girl Phil speaks of =
<BR>> had a terminal=20 <BR>> condition and her death was
emanate.</FONT></DIV><BR>>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3>However, the actions of her mother put =
<BR>> me in mind=20 <BR>> of situations I have seen where the person
who died, did so=20 <BR>> unexpectedly.</FONT></DIV><BR>>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3>One of my cousin's had a very strong=20
<BR>> personality.</FONT></DIV><BR>>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3>Well loved and idolized by = <BR>>
many.</FONT></DIV><BR>>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3>He was successful in his sport/business =
<BR>> as well and=20 <BR>> traveled around in a small plane to see
those he trained = <BR>> fight.</FONT></DIV><BR>>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3>He died in a crash of his friend's =
<BR>> small plane and=20 <BR>> many people had strong life like dreams
about him, his daughter claimed = <BR>> to=20 <BR>> communicate with
him and his mother never reconciled his death, if that = <BR>> is the=20
<BR>> word for it.</FONT></DIV><BR>>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3>She could not understand how there =
<BR>> could be a god=20 <BR>> who would let something like that
happen.</FONT></DIV><BR>>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3>I hear that kind of thing from my =
<BR>> friend who=20 <BR>> doesn't believe in god.</FONT></DIV><BR>>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3>If god exists, then = <BR>>
why...?</FONT></DIV><BR>>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3>Then, I had another cousin who died =
<BR>> suddenly and=20 <BR>> people claimed to have odd dreams about
him as well.</FONT></DIV><BR>>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3>I think that it can happen so = <BR>>
unexpectedly that=20 <BR>> some just have a hard time dealing with it
right away.</FONT></DIV><BR>>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3>People don't speak of having dreams =
<BR>> about these=20 <BR>> people anymore.</FONT></DIV><BR>>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3>Just seemed like right after there =
<BR>> deaths these=20 <BR>> stories would be
told.</FONT></DIV><BR>>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3>We can't expect all people to respond =
<BR>> to situations=20 <BR>> the same.</FONT></DIV><BR>>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3>It makes it harder on those around them =
<BR>> if they=20 <BR>> respond in a manner such as this but I think,
given time, they will come = <BR>> to cope=20 <BR>> with what has
happened.</FONT></DIV><BR>>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3>It would be great if everyone could =
<BR>> just=20 <BR>> automatically have a great faith in god and
understanding of the bible = <BR>> and they=20 <BR>> could deal
comfortably with death, but we can't expect that of=20 <BR>>
everybody.</FONT></DIV><BR>>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3>I still have things which belonged to =
<BR>> my father and=20 <BR>> my grandparents, I don't think people
should try to force folks to part = <BR>> with=20 <BR>> things like
that.</FONT></DIV><BR>>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3>Again, if it is something like an =
<BR>> answering machine=20 <BR>> recording, it just makes it dificults
for those who call, but I still = <BR>> don't=20 <BR>> think it right
to wrench things like that out of a person's belonging if = <BR>> they=20
<BR>> are still going through a coping process.</FONT></DIV><BR>>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3></FONT> </DIV><BR>>
> <DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3>Matt</FONT></DIV><BR>>
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