Phil, although, I don't hear Baptist preachers preach on the passage about
delivering one unto Satan, they refer to it sometimes, after doing all they
can do to restore someone.
earlier, Phil Scovell, wrote:
>Kathy and others,
>
>The First Corinthians 5:5 passage is not generally accepted today as part of
>New Testament church doctrine. In fact, the first time I heard about it was
>the missionary to Canada I mentioned and he was a Baptist. I never even
>heard any other Baptist preach on that passage before. It appears from just
>the reading of the passage in context, that Paul was instructing the
>Corinthian Christians what to do about the immorality of one of the church
>members. I don't see that he necessarily told the people to tell them what
>they were going to do but other passages, of course, tell us to do exactly
>that before anything else. It makes little difference because few people
>are literally afraid of God today and what sin can do to a person.
>Deceitfulness is what hardness the person's heart, not sin, according to
>Hebrews 3:13, but read the verse just before it, too.
>
>12 Take heed, brethren, lest there be in any of you an evil heart of
>unbelief, in departing from the living God.
>13 But exhort one another daily, while it is called To day; lest any of you
>be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin.
>
>An evil heart of unbelief in a Christian? That's what it says. What are
>they not believing in? It can't be God because it says they are Christians,
>or brethren, so it must be something else. Jesus scolded His disciples more
>than once for not believing and they were his followers. Jesus jumped on
>the disciples both before, and after, the resurrection for their unbelief.
>I still find such amazing. When we believe in something, regardless of what
>that is, it, the thing we believe, even if it is wrong, becomes the truth to
>us. We will act upon what we perceive to be the truth even if what we
>believe is a lie. A person can literally die because they believe a lie is
>the truth. some, who are not Born again, will even go to hell believing a
>lie.
>
>Again, to everyone reading this exchange, I am telling you because, quite
>frankly, we are the only church George and his family has right now. Yeah,
>I know, we aren't really a church, if we were, I'd be taking up offerings
>every week, but we are the Body of Christ. Truthfully, these people have no
>one and they are all alone and without fellow Christian to help them.
>
>You want to know the real truth? Children can destroy a family. The Enemy
>knows this so he picks on the children, sometimes from day one, knowing that
>by such means, he can infiltrate any family. Frankly, I don't care where
>George stands on any passage of Scripture but I do care where Jennifer
>stands. right now, wherever Jennifer stands isn't where she should be
>standing. Whatever it is that is keeping Jennifer silent until death can't
>be anything but a lie. I can think of only three possibilities that would
>cause someone to take death rather than life in the situation Jennifer is in
>right now. We may never get to discover the truth about this one.
>
>A few moments ago, George called me. We talked for five or so minutes. He
>told me that his wife is telling everybody her version of what happened and
>now their own son has turned against his dad. George has been telling me
>for weeks that if Jennifer dies, he will somehow be blamed for it so I guess
>he knows more about what is going on than anybody else. How sad for
>everyone involved and especially for Jennifer. As George was just talking,
>his wife came and got him, she won't talk to him otherwise, plus, Vivian
>hates my guts I have learned, I suppose because she thinks I have put George
>up to everything but she is wrong, of course, and told George to come right
>away because Jennifer nearly fainted. Jennifer can't hardly talk any longer
>and she is, as I type, literally fighting to breathe.
>
>Phil.
John
Minds are like parachutes, they only work when open
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