Ken,

Whether the Iraqis are better off is a tough call; they may (or may not,
some would argue) have greater civil liberties, but their lives may be
in greater immediate danger than they were under Hussein.  

On the opposite side of that coin, many would argue that we in the US
are safer, but have had our civil liberties eroded.  It was said in the
immediate post 9/11 period that the terrorists wanted to destroy the
American (read US) way of life, and they have made a start toward that,
IMHO.

As I read UN Resolution 1441, it doesn't explicitly give member states
of the UN permission to undertake unilateral military action against
Iraq.  That does seem to be permissible under UN resolutions 678 and
687, which were signed in 1990 and 1991, respectively.  

My point is that the armed forces presently engaged as coalition
partners do not wear UN uniforms, and as such are not formally
recognized as UN forces.

Kendall 

An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's redundant!)

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.

-George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950


-----Original Message-----
From: ken barber [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 4:54 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: FW: was dental question now iraq war.

  actually resolution 1441 passed without desent, but,
then when it got time to actually follow through, then
the germans, french, and russians backpeddled and
would not follow through. 1441 gave any member nation
the right to enforce it. the u.s. and the brits with a
few more did exactly that. 
  it appears that the intelligence worldwide was wrong
on lagre amounts of weapons of mass destruction unless
you believe that ranking iragi general that says they
flew them to syria. the media is ignoring him. i'd
guess some of you have heard nothing about him up to
just this email. but, either way i'll ask the
question. do you think iragis are better off now than
before the invasion? your honest answer should pretty
well tell you if the war is right or wrong. don't
wealsel out, they are either better off without saddam
or they were better off with him. 

--- Kendall David Corbett <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Let me send this again, so the link stays intact!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Kendall David Corbett
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 3:59 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: dental question
> 
> Anthony,
> 
> President Bush tried to get UN approval for the war
> in Iraq, and was
> turned down.  He then formed a coalition of partner
> nations for the war,
> which included the US, England, Australia, Canada,
> and a few others that
> I can't recall right now.
> 
> This is a link to an article in the Washington Post
> from August of 2002
> that talks about members of the present President
> Bush's administration
> saying that the President didn't even need
> Congressional approval for
> the present Iraq war, since Congress had approved
> the use of military
> force in 1991 when Iraq invaded Kuwait, and the
> Kuwaiti government made
> a formal request for help.
> 
>
www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A61040-2002Aug25?language=printer
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Kendall 
> 
> An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's
> redundant!)
> 
> The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the
> unreasonable one
> persists in trying to adapt the world to himself.
> Therefore, all
> progress depends on the unreasonable man.
> 
> -George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Anthony Arnold
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 2:29 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: dental question
> 
> I know I should have paid more attention back in
> school when we were
> covering this, but does the President of the United
> States have to win
> approval from the UN before going into places like
> Iraq or Iran?  Does
> he
> only need congress's?  
> 
> Thanks, 
> Anthony 
> Visit my website at www.anthonyarnold.net
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Cerebral Palsy List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of
> ken barber
> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 2:35 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: dental question
> 
> you guys would never admit it, but, you know i have
> a
> point. someone can pass gass in a room full of
> democrats and bush will be blamed for the stench. 
> 
> --- Mike Collis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> > Now, now, Ken!!! Don't get testy.  LOL  You're our
> > favorite curmudgeon!!! 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Cerebral Palsy List
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> > ken barber
> > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 12:56 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: dental question
> > 
> > george dubya bush. and it is his fault that you
> did
> > not know that too. 
> > 
> > --- Anthony Arnold <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > May I ask you who's dubya?
> > > 
> > > Thanks, 
> > > Anthony 
> > > Visit my website at www.anthonyarnold.net
> > 
> 
> 
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