I understand your point Pat. You said it understandable enough.
Brad
on 12:24 PM 5/6/2005, Pat Ferguson said:
Hi Brad,
Some very good thoughts there.
I don't think that God made us blind, or even caused our blindness, for
that matter. I guess that he uses our blindness to glorify him. i'm not
sure I'm saying that right, either. Oh well, it's Friday. lol.
I like what you said about having faith. I do believing in healing, but it
has it's time and place, and like you said, he doesn't always give us
everything we want, and that's okay with me.
I will go now and write more when my brain is working better. lol.
I like what you said about Peter, Paul and Mary. lol.
God Bless.
Love,
Pat Ferguson
At 09:19 PM 5/5/05, you wrote:
>Reading the devotion Kathy posted, and the various responses. I
wondered
>what do we know about affliction? No offense to anyone, these are just
>observations that came to me again through passed studies and meditating
>on them. On one hand we say that God, regarding one certain
>affliction, wants us this way and not to be healed, and on another hand
>holds yet another affliction, that we not ought have to live this
>way. Are we selectively picking out afflictions for our own purposeful
>reason as to why they exist? Blindness is of god, and depression of the
>devil? Is not affliction simply affliction? Jesus healed those thrashing
>about in seizures, those blind, those with leprosy, those with lameness,
>deformed arms, bent over woman, woman with a blood issue, not to
mention
>raised a few from the dead as well. Peter, Paul, and OK Mary, since that
>is the trio you old timers were thinking anyway *smile*, Well Peter and
>Paul anyway and not Mary, followed suit in such healing. So what about
>affliction. Can we separate depression from blindness, from lameness,
from
>blood disease, from cancer, from heart disease, from high blood pressure
>from acid reflux for that matter? Is God the maker and cause of them
all?
>Is the devil the cause of them all? Can we selectively choose who we
feel
>is the cause of them based upon our own particular situation or theology
>which we've adjusted to accommodate the tragedy? Can we choose to
believe
>one affliction is of God and meant to be with us because we see no other
>way of rationalizing its eminant lack of healing? And can we see in yet
>another affliction, a potential cure or way out and so blame that one on
>the devil with reasonably reassurance it will be overcome through modern
>medicine. In short, hopeless cure equals God wants me this way, and
>reasonable to good chance a cure will be on its way, so we safely
>proclaim victory over the devil's work. If a man of God walked up to me
>and healed me of my blindness, can I say then that god made me blind for
>his glory, or do I say it is of God's glory I was healed. Do I read
>scripture in the old testament which says that blind, deaf, and
afflicted,
>god made them all, and believe that to mean he made me blind, or simply
>that he made me, and my blindness is of another cause. Over the years
>I've seen folks, particularly in the blind community I guess because I'm
>part of it, that folks tend to start off with a faith that God can,
will
>and is able to heal them, but cannot reason it out of "why", "why
doesn't
>God do it then". And so make assumption that he wants us this way.
>Similarly to the depressed pastor in the article. I agree David had his
>moments of great depression, but just as much he had tremendous strength
>leadership and boldness. I'm not certain I'd want to follow a pastor who
>struggles to get up and lead his flock much less feed himself or go on
>with a normal day, and then to believe it takes more faith to endure it
>than be healed of it. I do agree in one sense that it takes more faith
to
>endure, that is true but that too does not equate a reason to cuddle the
>thoght God wants him this way. It takes more faith to endure the
>affliction than to give up to it and follow it's path of least
resistance.
>In this case, this pastor would lessen his faith and succumb to laying
>around in bed, show up unkempt where ever he goes, and perhaps even take
>his own life. That is no life of leisure and quite miserable, yet takes
no
>faith. It does take faith to endure it, try to over come it, and in the
>case of the pastor, indeed there are ways to overcome it which I hope he
>does find. Relating to blindness how is this different? Do we not find
it
>easier to succumb to the affliction as we see it remain in our lives and
>give up on seeking god's healing hand, and fall into the comfort zone of
>stating God wants me this way to use me? Sure God can use us where ever
we
>are, but he certainly don't need me to be blind to minister to the
blind,
>or sighted for that matter. It does however take tremendous faith to
stand
>in faith that perhaps it is not necessarily our faith that is preventing
>us from being healed, but perhaps our lining up with god's will in our
>life? In James I believe it says that some will not get what they've
asked
>for because they will use it for ways which are not of God's will or
word.
>Is it possible that we yes, need to have faith to be healed, for without
>it we cannot be saved, why should we think differently of healing, and
>that perhaps we too need to continue to shout to god from the streets
and
>seek to line up our lives towards his will and out of our persitence and
>obedicne to his word, he might one day in fact heal us. Now I will say
>that does not constitute the opposite, making healing our God and not
God
>our god, that is not balance either. But what of it? Is our afflictions
>here on Earth of God? Of the devil? Or up to us to selectively plant
>responsibility on one or the other based upon how we wish to interpret
it
>or have it fit our theology enough that we can reasonably find our way
>through life.
>
>Brad
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