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exactly, i got ridiculous scores on my sat's... i did much better on the
act verbals where I could write some essay  questions.  and forget about
the math...

Tamar Mag Raine
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IM: tamarmag48
Oakland Mayor's Commission on People with disabilities


> [Original Message]
> From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: 9/30/2004 10:23:50 AM
> Subject: Fwd: Re: [DGV] Halting Progress for the Disabled (fwd)
>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> > local news had a story last week about a straight
> > "a"
> > student that failed the graduation test. she said
> > the
> > pressure of what was riding on the test made her
> > "blank out."
> >
> > --- Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > My weakness is tests, I'm much happier to write a
> > > paper on a topic.
> > >
> > > Tamar Mag Raine
> > > [log in to unmask]
> > > IM: tamarmag48
> > > Oakland Mayor's Commission on People with
> > > disabilities
> > >
> > >
> > > > [Original Message]
> > > > From: Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Date: 9/30/2004 6:49:34 AM
> > > > Subject: Re: [DGV] Halting Progress for the
> > > Disabled (fwd)
> > > >
> > > > Hi Beth,
> > > >
> > > >   Sorry to hear about your Dad's house. I was
> > just
> > > down in Palmetto =
> > > > visiting my best friend - 9/9 thru 9/19. Held my
> > > breathe on Ivan. Both =
> > > > for down there and up hear - it spawned 37
> > > tornados here in the NoVa So =
> > > > Md area.
> > > >
> > > >   The testing is really dumb. Amber's class was
> > > the first one that had =
> > > > to pass Virginia's SOL's to graduate from High
> > > School. I remember the =
> > > > years of preparing the kids - so much wasted
> > class
> > > time - days learning =
> > > > the proper way to fill in bubbles - what a waste
> > > of time - the kids now =
> > > > take the tests on the computer. Whole months
> > where
> > > spent in prep for the =
> > > > tests - so the never finished other stuff. Some
> > > classes where all about =
> > > > teaching the test. So the kids don't know
> > anything
> > > but what on the test. =
> > > > Amber always ace'd the tests - ironically you
> > can
> > > fail the class and =
> > > > still pass the test.=20
> > > >
> > > > After years of helping out in Amber's classes -
> > > what needed is more =
> > > > individual time with the kids - and sad to say
> > > what is really needed is =
> > > > parental involvement - the idea that its all the
> > > school's problem - is =
> > > > balderdash!!! More attention needs to be paid to
> > > the kids home lives - =
> > > > how can kids who are hungry, take of themselves,
> > > live in squalor and =
> > > > have drug or alcohol addicted parents ever learn
> > > anything. Maybe we need =
> > > > state boarding schools for some of these
> > kids.=20
> > > >
> > > > State colleges here charge $12,000 for tuition
> > for
> > > a year - the high =
> > > > school puts out $9,000 per resident child and
> > > charge parents $12,000 for =
> > > > non-resident kids. Ummmm, not sure what extra
> > > $3000 is for. But at that =
> > > > rate they are matching the colleges - and there
> > > the kids get room and =
> > > > board also.=20
> > > >
> > > > We need to look at why the kids aren't learning
> > > and fix that. I think =
> > > > the real problem is people are more worried
> > about
> > > their individual =
> > > > monetary welbeing and screw the kids - becasue
> > now
> > > testing is a big =
> > > > industry and people would lose their jobs - so
> > > better give the kids a =
> > > > mediocre education......=20
> > > >
> > > > I saw the difference parental involvement means
> > in
> > > the kids education - =
> > > > and we really need to start by educating
> > > parents.=20
> > > >
> > > > Amber is enjoying college and doing fine.=20
> > > >
> > > >                                Trisha
> > > >
> > > > =20
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Elizabeth Thiers
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 9:25 AM
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject: Re: [DGV] Halting Progress for the
> > > Disabled (fwd)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > And I don't think that's quite what was intended
> > > by the original bill.
> > > > High stakes testing equals lots of money.
> > > >
> > > > Beth t the OT
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
> > > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> > > Of Trisha Cummings
> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 7:25 AM
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject: Re: [DGV] Halting Progress for the
> > > Disabled (fwd)
> > > >
> > > > Hi Ken,
> > > >
> > > >    I just did a paper on testing and education
> > and
> > > I was disgusted by =
> > > > =3D how
> > > > education is being degraded in an effort to make
> > > the scores to keep =3D =
> > > > the
> > > > Feds $'s. Did you know one special population
> > > child not passing the =3D =
> > > > test
> > > > can mean the whole school fails?  Then they
> > blame
> > > the =3D =
> > > > teachers.........=3D20
> > > >
> > > >                                           Trisha
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: ken barber [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2004 7:42 PM
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > Subject: Re: [DGV] Halting Progress for the
> > > Disabled (fwd)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > i am afraid it is too late to not get you
> > started.
> > > by the way "no child =
> > > > left
> > > > behind" was mainly written by Ted Kennedy (and
> > > bought off on by bush)and
> > > > definately something i was against. i am not
> > > against education at all, =
> > > > but,
> > > > this bill was not the way to go.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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