Dean Esmay wrote:
>
> Do you suppose we'll ever stop this bickering and such here and get to the
> business of supporting everyday dieters in their efforts?  Or will we just
> keep arguing?

I don't think we're bickering, and I certainly hope we don't stop
arguing.
I cannot think of a better way to support everyday dieters in their
efforts
than critically examining the claims and assumptions of people who
explicitly
or implicitly are telling them what to eat.

> I used The Zone once and was so hungry I thought I'd gnaw my own arm off.
> I can't imagine ever eating a diet so very low in protein.

Out of curiousity, about how many grams of protein are you eating daily
at the present time?

> On the other
> hand I know people who love it, do just great on it.  Bully for them.  Let
> them do it.  They aren't fools if they lose weight, feel great, and enjoy
> what they're doing.  Neither for that matter are the people eating the
> Ornish diet, which is about as unnatural as it gets but which appears to
> suit some individuals just fine.

Ornish promotes massive amounts of fruits and veggies, lots of grain,
and
no meat products at all, right? I think this diet is probably more
natural
than what lots and lots of Americans eat, namely an amazing array of
highly
processed foods that are multiple degrees removed from their natural
state.

Toby