Kabir,
Why do you jump into a sudden conclusion and dish what I said to Joe. I did
not direct what I said to no single individual. It is my opinion which is
assumed to be what is right as far as I am concerned. Why would I try to
mobilise people who are very reactive in their thinking and deeds.Hey Bro,
All those that are in power and those trying to be in power are very
reactive, as a result am not politically motivated to rally for either the
present government or the opposition.
" to come together positively and influence the masses and the rest will
follow". Bro, The merits of good things easily show themselves, we have to
be very proactive and influencial if any political ambitions are to be
achieved. The rest that will follow is the merit of the good deeds and being
proactive rather than reactive is the only means to acheive it. If you can
balance things up, you will know that what I said did fit some people other
than Joe.Why do I have to mobilise if people are already mobilising, I think
it is like creating sub divisions of the already divided Gambia and after
all what can one person do. Bro, dig into my comments and make your
judgements, but it is my raw opinion and is not tendered to chastise or
enrage anyone.
peace
Brime
>From: Amadu Kabir Njie <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Credibility
>Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 22:31:29 +0000
>
>Brime,
>
>All the philosophising aside, how much mobilising have you been doing "to
>come together positively and influence the masses and the rest will
>follow".?!?
>
>"Influence the MASSES and the REST will follow"? Who are the rest?
>
>Anyway, someone who has spent all his spare time trying to mobilise is
>accused without any justifiable cause of being a spy for the the very
>regime that has brought the living hell into Gambians' lives. When the
>person who brought forward those preposterous accusations has not hidden
>his political ambitions I think you should have been more irked by his
>statements than that of someone who has never exhibited any political
>ambitions.
>
>If you are sitting on all this knowledge about political mobilasation why
>are you not on the forefront of the campaign for a better Gambia? Is it
>because of the Gambia of today is ideal according to you?
>
>I think your advice is directed at the wrong audience; barely a week ago
>The President of the Republic of The Gambia was talking rudely to and
>threatening Gambian elders and sending death threats to others. Did I ever
>hear you condemn Jammeh on any issue?
>
>Yet when Joe calls someone who has lied about him a liar you suddenly
>become philosophical? Geez, Gambians!
>
>Kabir.
>
>
>
>ecka <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>Hi folks,
>As we look at those things within our circle of concern, it becomes
>apparent
>that there are somethings over which we have no real control and others
>that
>we can do something about. Proactive people focus their efforts in the
>circle of influence,they work on things they can do something about and the
>nature of their energy is positive,enlarging and magnifying causing their
>circle of influence to increase. This is what is required of gentle people
>who want to lead The Gambia in the future. On the other hand, reactive
>people focus their efforts on the weaknesses of other people and
>circumstances in which they have no control.Their focus results in blaming
>and accusing attitudes , reactive language, and increased feelings of
>victimization.Which way do we have to take if we have the interest of the
>Gambia at heart? Convince the Gambian populace sincerely or being
>borderline
>mouthy from abroad and cause choas in the Gambia.Some people here are very
>reactive and I know that they are cowards with big words.If there is to be
>change in the Gambia we need to come together positively and influence the
>masses and the rest will follow. Being disrecpectful and reactive does not
>hold the future of our country.
>Peace
>Brime
>
> >From: Joe Sambou
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Credibility/ Mr Sanneh
> >Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:53:22 +0000
> >
> >Thanks Tunkareh! STGDP knows who you are and that is enough.
> >
> >Chi Jaama
> >
> >Joe
> >
> >
> >>From: Lang Tunkara
> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >>
> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>Subject: Re: Credibility/ Mr Sanneh
> >>Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 17:02:38 +0000
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Jabou:
> >>
> >>You wrote:
> >>
> >>"empty chatterboxes with a limited vocabulary that
> >>consists largely of profanity and disrespectful language, supplemented
>by
> >>unmistakable dictatorial tendencies as an indication of said characters
> >>having
> >>prevailed over anyone"
> >>
> >>You are absolutely right, and I think they should be ashamed of
> >>themselves. But the big question is, what the future holds for the
>Gambia
> >>if these folks, charaterise above, succeed in becoming part of an
> >>administration that replaces Jammeh? It is scary.
> >>
> >>Lamin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>From: [log in to unmask]
> >>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >>
> >>To: [log in to unmask]
> >>Subject: Re: Credibility/ Mr Sanneh
> >>Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 15:45:54 EST
> >> >
> >> >Brother Abdoukarim Sanneh,
> >> >
> >> >I was going to post these few words of mine this morning but an
> >>engagement
> >> >kept me away from my computer until now, and it is interesting that
> >>Jasseh
> >> >Conteh seems to have taken some of the words right out of my mouth.
> >> >
> >> >I wanted to ask you not to waste your valuable time trying to appeal
>to
> >> >those who demonstrate daily their lack of good judgement.
> >> >
> >> >Additionally, my comment is that only the simple minded can believe
> >>that
> >> >credibility is measured by such a short yardstick, and that it is
> >>only they who
> >> >mistake a refusal to engage empty chatterboxes with a limited
> >>vocabulary
> >>that
> >> >consists largely of profanity and disrespectful language, supplemented
> >>by
> >> >unmistakable dictatorial tendencies as an indication of said
>characters
> >>having
> >> >prevailed over anyone.
> >> >
> >> >I hope that you are having a good weekend over there in the UK.
> >> >
> >> >Sister Jabou Joh
> >> >
> >> >In a message dated 11/11/2005 7:51:33 P.M. Central Standard Time,
> >> >[log in to unmask] writes:
> >> >
> >> >Joe and Jassey Conteh, as long serving subscribe to Gambia discussion
> >>to
> >> >group on the net, I think what matters is to forget abut the past
> >>different from
> >> >the story about our humble
> >>sister. I have a lot respect about her, Joe and
> >> >Mr Conteh. We lived out side in Gambia and calling families and
>reading
> >>about
> >> >news makes us to determine that Gamboia come first. I am alway
> >>determine
> >>to
> >> >know that it is our bit and piece that can lead a way forward that I
> >>wanted to
> >> >challenge the Gambian diaspora in United Kingdom that we have to put
> >>our
> >> >house in order cause 2006 is near. We all near a way forward.please
> >>come
> >>me
> >> >brothers in Uk for a way forward and replicate the patriotic efforts
> >>our
> >>brother
> >> >ub U.SA. I know we can make a diffrence.
> >> >Contact
> >> >Home:-01618771939
> >> >
> >> >Joe Sambou wrote:
> >> >Hmmmmmm! How convenient. Looks like someone missed the boat all
> >>together.
> >> >Interestingly, it is because of your fabrications of the past, the
> >>reason
> >> >why we have to ask folks to substantiate their claims against the
> >>innocent.
> >> >You lied here that I was a snitch for Yaya and ran for cover when
>folks
> >>ask
> >> >you to substantiate it. Today, whose integrety is in question? Yours
> >> >Conteh in case you forget. You have been proven to be a liar yourself
> >>so, I
> >> >am not surprised that you will not be interested to know whether in
> >>fact
> >>Mr.
> >> >Bah is framed because of what Alieu alleged. Do you think with you
>feet
> >>up
> >> >or what?
> >> >
> >> >Joe
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > >From: Jassey Conteh
> >> > >Reply-To: Jassey Conteh
> >> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> >> > >Subject: Re: The failure of Pa
> >>Nderry and Last card Sey
> >> > >Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 14:54:00 -0500
> >> > >
> >> > >Mr. Sanyang:
> >> > >
> >> > > A code of professional conduct is indeed a venture for its members
> >> > >to consistently apply principles and standards the profession
> >>dictates. Pa
> >> > >Nderry M'Bye has a right to report, but he should do so with ethical
> >> > >values. After reading Mr. M'Bye's recent posting, I became concerned
> >>with
> >> > >his integrity and objectivity. Is Mr. M'Bye doing a disservice to
>his
> >> > >profession and the opposition?
> >> > >
> >> > > I searched every news outlet in the Gambia to verify Mr. M'Bye's
> >> > >narration. I could not find any source that collaborated his
>posting,
> >> > >except his own. Mr. M'Bye's
> >>narration and conclusion should be evaluated
> >> > >with caution. Was his posting fabricated? Talk is cheap, but one
> >>should
> >> > >consistently apply the principles and standards.
> >> > >
> >> > > As we move forward for a yahyaless Gambia, we must be willing to
> >> > >disagree with fellow comrades whose messages might be deterrent to
> >>our
> >> > >struggle. How could one openly threatened a dictator who has been
> >>known to
> >> > >use every effort in suppressing the opposition? Should we not
> >>advocate
> >>for
> >> > >a free and fair election thereby reaching the electorate that we
> >> > >desperately need? Why is it that the presidential election is going
> >>to
> >>be
> >> > >held on a different date? Do you know why? Because Jammeh would use
> >>every
> >> > >effort with his thugs to stay in power? Should we reach an agreement
> >>with
> >> > >the APRC government on the rule of conduct during the election?
> >>Does the
> >> > >opposition have willing and concerned external parties to monitor
>the
> >> > >elections? I believe we should address these issues before
> >>fabricating
> >> > >from afar.
> >> > >
> >> > > I commend you for your truthfulness regardless of your political
> >> > >doctirne.
> >> > >
> >> > >Naphiyo,
> >> > >Comrade Jassey-Conteh
> >> > >
> >> > >-----Original Message-----
> >> > >From: Alieu Sanyang
> >> > >Sent: Nov 11, 2005 1:34 PM
> >> > >To: [log in to unmask]
> >> > >Subject: Re: The failure of Pa Nderry and Last card
> >>Sey
> >> > >
> >> > >Joe,
> >> > >I am not a spokes person for the Jammeh government. If you have any
> >> > >questions with regards to what they believe or what I report on the
> >>Bah
> >> > >case, I guess you are intelligent enough to know how to fetch for
> >> > >information.
> >> > >I am not sure if you are lying or the Jammeh government is lying.
>All
> >>that
> >> > >I know is that my sources are right.
> >> > >And again, it is your choice to believe in what you want to. I look
> >>forward
> >> > >to the day we as Gambians are not being blinded like you are to the
> >>truth.
> >> > >Did anyone prove here that what Mr. Nderry reported was true? Only
> >> > >Abdulkarim Sanneh had some guts to question him. He never came back
> >>on
> >>this
> >> > >List to
> >>even explain. What did the "good old Joe" say or do about it?
> >> > >So big guy, let us all be honest to ourselves if we have to be able
> >>to
> >>move
> >> > >our nation further. Let us all have our differences but still be
>able
> >>to
> >> > >accept that we have different ideas and believes withou calling
> >>anyone a
> >> > >liar.
> >> > >
> >> > >Alieu Sanyang.
> >> > >
> >> > >Joe Sambou wrote:
> >> > >Alu, fair enough, then I will just wait for Yaya's evidence against
> >>NADD,
> >> > >like the drawing of General Powel, of the nucs hiddin by Saddam.
> >>Alieu,
> >> > >have you read the charges that the government you are proud of
>levied
> >> > >against Bah? If so, are they lying and your source is correct? If
>you
> >> > >believe they are off
> >>track, then don't you think you should help them beef
> >> > >up those charges to include Last Card and exclude Bah? Looks like
> >>they
> >> > >missed Last Card, totally. Hmmmm! Something tells me that this is a
> >> > >phantom from both sides, for if you have this evidence, you
>certainly
> >> > >cannot
> >> > >allow an innocent person get railroaded, will you?
> >> > >
> >> > >Chi Jaama
> >> > >
> >> > >Joe
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > >From: Alieu Sanyang
> >> > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >> > > >
> >> > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> >> > > >Subject: Re: The failure of Pa Nderry and Last card Sey
> >> > > >Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:32:37 -0800
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > > >Joe,
> >> > > >I am not writing to show any evidences. I wish you had the
> >>integrity to
> >> > >ask
> >> > > >the guys who pulled the same stories against the Jammeh regime.
> >> > > >You have the right to believe what you chose to. It was not
>written
> >>for
> >> > >you
> >> > > >to judge either. Call it anything you want to.
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Alieu Sanyang
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Joe Sambou wrote:
> >> > > >Alieu, you have also made some serious allegations against Last
> >>Card
> >>and
> >> > >I
> >> > > >am interested in the substance of your allegations. Yaya said that
> >>NADD
> >> > > >gave Wade fake documents, which both you and I know to be a
> >>fabrication,
> >> >
> >> > >and
> >> > > >now you are saying that Last Card sent fake documents to the
> >>Senegalese
> >> > > >forging Bah's signature, so which is which? Can you present the
> >>evidence
> >> > > >you are refering to, to support you claims? I don't know your
> >>relation
> >> > >with
> >> > > >Yaya, but you can surely advise him about the rules of evidence,
>or
> >>is
> >> > >this
> >> > > >the same as the Diskette evidence that he waved to Gambians
> >>about "Oil
> >> > >and
> >> > > >Circumstance"? Your charge against Last Card is very serious and
> >>involves
> >> > > >the life of an innocent person, that you are morally required to
> >>show
> >> > >your
> >> > > >hand. Otherwise, I will just disregard it as "hear say".
> >> > >
> >> >
> >> > > >Chi Jaama
> >> > > >
> >> > > >Joe
> >> > > >
> >> > > >
> >> > > > >From: Alieu Sanyang
> >> > > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> >> > > > >Subject: The failure of Pa Nderry and Last card Sey
> >> > > > >Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 05:22:18 -0800
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >The folks like Pa Nderry and Last Card Sey have seen their plot
> >>to
> >> > >breed
> >> > > > >blood between The Gambia and Senegal failed. Mr. Nderry, I think
> >>you
> >> > > >should
> >> > > > >be ashamed of yourself and your family to be spreading news on
> >>this
> >> >
> >> >List
> >> > > > >that is not only inaccurate, but defamatory. You have been
> >>working
> >>so
> >> > > >hard
> >> > > > >to disseminate news that is not true only to help your
> >>asylum case.
> >> > >This
> >> > > >is
> >> > > > >what I do not understand about we the Gambians. Anytime we have
> >>our
> >> > > > >interests to follow, we will go the extra mile to put our
> >>interests
> >> > >above
> >> > > > >our national interest.
> >> > > > >In your most recent lies, you said some folks have been
>arrested.
> >>I am
> >> > > >one
> >> > > > >the few who rarely calls the Gambia, but to find out that there
> >>was no
> >> > > > >truth to what you just reported is very troubling. This
> >>speaks volumes
> >> > > > >about who you are and the likes of you we have all seen here.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >For Last Card Sey, it was shocking to learn that you are still
>in
> >> > > > >possession of Gambian government documents that you are
>selfishly
> >>using
> >> > > >to
> >> > > > >put a dent on the Gambia-Senegal relation. It was surprising
> >>to learn
> >> > > >that
> >> > > > >you have sent falsely signed documents to the Senegalese
> >>authorities to
> >> > > > >show they were coming from Gambian authorities. What I do not
> >> > >understand
> >> > > >as
> >> > > > >a Gambians and an individual, is what is in it for you? In fact,
> >>I got
> >> > > >from
> >> > >
> >> > >reliable sources that the recent Samba Bah case has to do with what
> >>you
> >> > > > >false signed as Mr. Bah. Having Gambian government staples and
> >> > > >misrepresent
> >> > > > >them is a crime. I don't know why the Gambian government is not
> >> > >pursuing
> >> > > > >that from this end. You have been successfully using a lot of
> >>folks you
> >> > > > >come in contact with for your selfish interests against the
> >>Jammeh
> >> > > >regime.
> >> > > > >My dear friends, there is nothing wrong with being
> >>oppositions, but
> >> > >there
> >> > > > >is so much and everything wrong with being anti-Gambia. Some of
> >>us
> >>even
> >> > > > >with other citizenship identities residing out side The
> >>Gambia do not
> >> > >go
> >> > > > >this far to promote our self interests.
> >> > > > >I think what this is all about tells us what kind of people
>folks
> >>like
> >> > > >you
> >> > > > >are. I thank God that you are all out of the Gambia and will not
> >> > >succeed
> >> > > >in
> >> > > > >being part of any government forever in The Gambia. What you are
> >>all
> >> > > >doing
> >> > > > >tell us how you will run your families and your country
> >>if opportunity
> >> > > >was
> >> > > > >given.
> >> > > > >What I will strongly suggest for some of these individuals you
> >>all
> >> > > >defamed
> >> > > > >and faked their signatures, is to pursue legal actions against
> >>you even
> >> > > >in
> >> > > > >The Gambia at your absence. I think if convicted, the government
> >>of the
> >> > > > >Gambia and Senegal can certainly succeed in bringing you to face
> >>the
> >> > > >music.
> >> > > > >I hope we can all live side by side and stop putting our
>national
> >> > > >interests
> >> > > > >behind our own.
> >> > > > >Good luck to you all.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >Alieu Sanyang.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
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