well, i think the nationalazation of the church ie:
the church of england, the church of .....
was what the establishment clause in our constitution
was for. bottom line there will be no church of the
united states, nothing more than this. but, i shall
not go further into that.

--- Mike Collis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> As long as it's known we're not proselytizing, I'll
> step in and say a
> few things... :)  I find the article very truthful
> about Christianity
> being a faith for the sufferers.   I actually don't
> think Christianity
> would be a faith for people who suffer with any of
> the other choices,
> and therefore would be deemed irrelevant in today's
> world.
>
> Having said that, I'm now going to say that I think
> Constamtine did the
> church a major disservice by making Christianity the
> state faith.  It
> creates an nationalistic attitude in many churches
> and Christians.
> I've had to fight against this attitude in my own
> life ever since Gulf
> War '91. Just when I think I put out one fire, "up
> she comes with
> another..."
>
> Nationalism is the big boogey man for me, because
> Jesus was so much
> against it.  I don't think I love my country any
> less than any other red
> blooded American, I love my God much more.
>
> Mike
>
> Tag: Warning: This Powerchair has an attitude
> problem!!!
>
>
> Kat wrote:
>
> Hey, it's OK.  I'm finding it interesting. :)
>
> Kat
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Aug 17, 2004 2:21 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Article for Kyle and Mike
>
>   why yes i do think so.
>   you are right in that nothing ever really changes.
> problems that faced christianity in the early days,
> face it today. the enemy has not went away. nor will
> he.
>
> i hope the non-christians on the list will induge me
> in this conversation. i'll get it off list if it
> goes
> further.
>
> --- Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Do you think so?
> > It seems much like modern Christainity has just
> > redone the divisions in =
> > a different way.
> >
> >                   Trisha
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ken barber [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 17, 2004 2:08 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Article for Kyle and Mike
> >
> >
> > i'll answer that question. the faith would have
> > died.
> >
> >
>




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