Good afternoon Jack,
I regret that you choose not to give any credence to my post, especially
without knowing whether or not I value my personal integrity enough to
be truthful when I communicate with others.
Ron Miller
-----Original Message-----
From: VICUG-L: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Jack and Seetbriar
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 2:53 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [VICUG-L] Any Pack Mate fans or critics?
Ron, Your comments though cogent would have carried a great deal more
weight had they not come from a freedom science fiction company mouth
piece!
--
Jack :)
You can only live once, but if you do it right, once is enough.
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On Thu, 26 May 2005, Ron Miller wrote:
> Hi Kelly,
> Your comment regarding choosing ones access technology according to
> the needs one has is well said, however, I would like to respond to
> your comments regarding the PAC Mate which were somewhat subjective
> and in a couple of instances, unfortunately, incorrect.
>
> Let me take a moment to address the pertinent points. I will place
> your comments in quotations followed by additional information which
> may be useful as one considers the PAC Mate and other available
> personal digital assistants.
>
> You said: "Pack mates aren't really super rugged like how Braille and
> Speaks were." You will find that the PAC Mate is not fragile or flimsy
> in construction. Your comparison to the Braille 'N Speak is, to some
> extent, akin to comparing apples to tangerines. They are very
> different in size, weight, etc. None of the currently available pda's
> can be compared to the Braille 'N Speak directly, they all differ
> markedly in form from this unit.
>
> You said: "A basic laptop can easily run programs like Microsoft Word,
> Outlook Express, internet Explorer and stand-alone day planning
> programs. A pack mate can't do this, so for me the blind end user's
> needs should be really special and specific to justify the added
> cost." The PAC Mate uses Windows Mobile 2003 (also known as Pocket PC
> 2003). The PAC Mate user has full access to the features of Microsoft
> Outlook with the Inbox, Calendar, Contact and Notes fully synchronized
> every time the PAC Mate is connected to a pc--this includes any
> folders that have been set up within outlook. If a user prefers
> Outlook Express to Outlook, there is an third party application
> available that allows the PAC Mate to synchronize with Outlook Express
> in the same way. Also, Windows Mobile 2003 provides versions of
> Microsoft Word, Internet Explorer and Excel so that you can work on
> your Word documents, excel workbooks or browse the net using the PAC
> Mate. Applications such as SKYPE and MSN Messenger enhance one's
> connectivity and communications abilities with the PAC Mate. Other
> third party applications such as AudiblePlayer, which lets you listen
> to books from Audible.com on the PAC Mate or GSPlayer and Pocket
> Player which can play streaming audio using a number of sources
> including Winamp .PLS files and the usual .wav and MP3 types already
> included in Microsoft Media player (also included on the PAC Mate) let
> you add new and useful applications to your PAC Mate. Finally, the PAC
> Mate's Inbox, Calendar, Tasks and Contacts features can be used to
> provide "standalone" email planner and telephone/address book without
> connection to a pc.
>
> For more information about the PAC Mate, including downloadable
> manuals and MP3 Basic Training Modules, check out the PAC Mate links
> at Freedom Scientific's website. For more info about how many people
> are using their PAC Mates and what kinds of "off the shelf"
> applications they are finding to use with their PAC Mates check out
> pacmategear.com. This is not a Freedom Scientific website but you will
> certainly find useful info there.
>
> My very best regards
>
>
> Ron Miller
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: VICUG-L: Visually Impaired Computer Users' Group List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Kelly Pierce
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 8:56 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Any Pack Mate fans or critics?
>
>
> Peter,
>
> it sounds like you need to assemble a circle of support to form the
> basis of your adaptive technology team. with the team, an overall
> strategy and purpose can be stated and specific questions can be asked
> and discussed. For details on how to do all of this, see my package of
> articles about choosing adaptive technology on eSight.org
>
> often, a given piece of technology is not inherently good or bad.
> What makes sense depends on the individual, his needs and
> circumstances. having said all of that, Pack mates aren't really super
> rugged like how Braille and Speaks were. You haven't stated your
> purpose or need but realize that one can buy three or four laptops for
> the price of a single pack mate. A basic laptop can easily run
> programs like Microsoft Word, Outlook Express, internet Explorer and
> stand-alone day planning programs. A pack mate can't do this, so for
> me the blind end user's needs should be really special and specific to
> justify the added cost.
>
> I encourage you to ponder the questions raised in my package and
> complete the different exercises. I trust when that process is
> finished, you will have your answer.
>
>
> Kelly
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Seymour" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 8:37 PM
> Subject: Any Pack Mate fans or critics?
>
>
> > Hello All,
> >
> > I'm just starting to look into getting a Pack Mate instead of a new
> > lap top.
> >
> > Can I get some informed pros and cons on this idea?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Peter Seymour
> >
> >
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