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I needed vitamin B with C.  No problem since except if I eat a lot of
almonds.

I have pemphigus and had to call my doctor for a  prescription for a mouth
wash that would  help. Pemphigus is an autoimmune disease that can manifest
itself in the mouth or on the skin, or both, and can be fairly serious.
See a dermatologist or call around until they can find a dentist who knows
about pemphigus.

Find an herbalist/alternative practicioner to help cure the mouth sores in
the meantime. Bloodroot is good for mouth sores, also: echinacea mouthwash,
myrrh, or cabbage juice, sage tea as a rinse. Comfrey root made into a
mucilaginous tea really helps.
Merc. Sol. As a homeopathic remedy. Avoid chocolate, oranges, tomatoes,
pineapple and all acid foods until it clears. Can she find out if it is
Oral Thrush (common with dairy or wheat allergies/intolerances), Gum
Disease, or just mouth ulcers? Each has it's own remedies.

Archives list Rembrandt toothpaste as helping to decrease or eliminate
mouth sores in 70 percent of the people.  Is there a chance
her sores are herpes sores?  Most people who have oral herpes have it on
the outside of their mouths though I do personally know of someone who has
them only inside the mouth.

I had some mouth sores from candida a couple months ago.  I started
drinking kefir and they cleared right up.  It apparently was thrush.

She may try lysine and L-glutamine.  Both these amino acids are useful in
healing damaged mucous membranes.

I have a LOT of trouble with mouth sores.  Unfortunately, by the time I
would get to see a doctor they were gone.  I told my dentist about them.
He said the next time I had one to let him see it.  I got one a couple of
weeks later and went to see him.  He looked at it and said he wanted to see
it again in a week.  His conclusion was that it was from a type of herpes
virus.  I take L-Lysine and it has helped a lot.  It's worth a try.  You
have to take it every day forever, but it does help.

She might try using ice on them and also taking Lysine.  Both things help
in healing the mouth sores.  She can also wash her mouth out with
Listerine.

Mouth sores often respond well to probiotics (e.g. taking acidophilus,
eating live kefir, live yogurt, etc.), as well as to supplemental l-lysine
(an amino acid). Rinsing often with warm salt water has always seemed
helpful to me. One doctor prescribed an anti-viral for it, but, in all
truth, I don't think this was much help. During flare-ups it is advisable
to avoid any irritants such as citrus (and in my opinion alcohol based
mouth washes; even hydrogen peroxide is actually caustic, and probably not
that great an idea - good old salt water provides a good pH balance and
seems to help with the healing. In the bad old days when there were no
modern Novocain type things available, my dentist would simply swab clove
oil in our mouths - this does have a numbing effect, but I would try it
very cautiously, as it may burn as well, given that you describe those
sores as being pretty deep.   Also important to healing: high quality
protein, such as meat and eggs.


My doctor told me to use liquid Maalox in my mouth to put on the sores. AT
the time I didn't know I had Celiac and I was flabbergasted at the
suggestion but it did help me. Now I suspect that the mouth sores are
similar to the damage that goes on in
the intestines and that is why it relieves the sores.

I used to get these and gluten wasn't the main problem.  It was other food
allergies.  I did some elimination diets and got an IgG panel done for food
allergies.  Looks like corn was the biggest culprit for me.  I haven't had
a mouth sore in over a year.

I had apthous mouth sores from celiac disease -- they were one of my few
symptoms.  I can sympathize;  the  sores are extremely painful.  After
several months of being  gluten-free they went away and I haven't had them
in years.  It sounds nasty but one thing that used to help was to rinse my
mouth out with liquid maalox and liquid benadryl.  Actually it was quite
nasty but it helped

Usually a dentist can write a prescription for that pharmacist can whip up
that includes a topical pain killer, malox (g.f. ??) & benadryl...  Others
have found relieve by taking l-lysine supplements.  It's an essential amion
acid that may be in short supply in g.f. diets or not well absorbed by
undiagnosed celiacs.  Nature Made is g.f. & available everywhere a a
reasonable price.


I always had horrible mouth sores before I was GF.  (I  had as many as 100
at a time!)  The only doctor who could help me was
an ONCOLOGIST, since they see so many patients with mouth sores after
chemo.  They have 'recipes' for a special mouthwash/rinse that is a  "swish
and spit" or "swish and swallow" solution that will help ease  the pain of
the sores and allow them to heal.  I wish I had the name of  the
prescription, but it was a special concoction made up my his  office.  The
only time  I get sores now is after accidental gluten  exposure.


You may try rinsing several times a day with salt water.  I get mouth sores
occasionally, I think when I eat something with gluten.  My dentist said to
rinse with salt water and it works for me.

I'm wondering if this person is taking vitamins and minerals? Whenever my
vitamin B Complex is low is when I get sores, usually just in the corners
of my mouth now, but I can remember back when I'd get them in my mouth too.

Has this persons Dr ran tests from too much acid?

Zinc lozenges are a great healer too. I can't even take flu shots anymore,
and zinc helps me not to catch the flu.


For quick relief chew some SAGE, fresh sage is best.  Just chew a leaf and
keep it in the mouth like some would with chewing tobacco.  If pregnant
large amounts of sage are abortive so use care, a leaf of three a day won't
harm you.    Tri-colored sage, garden sage, whichever.  This works
quick.    If no fresh sage go to dried sage and make a tea by heating water
and steeping a teaspoon of cut sage or powder sage and drink slowly or just
put in mouth and swish around.  This will help the pain and will also heal
the boo boos.

A very important detail is to STOP eating and drinking refined foods, as in
sodas, baked products, foods with sugars,  If its real bad stop fruits and
juices for a bit.  Hopefully you'll do the sage this works great, my mother
told me about it years ago, since going free of so many foods for myself I
have not needed it and when I do get a pain in my mouth I use sage
essential oil, I put a drop on my toothbrush when I brush my teeth.  My
spouse tried this and tells everyone who ever mentions a mouth sore to do
this.  He's even got our 11 year old and 13 year old to do this when they
complained.

A homeopathic remedy NAt Mur 30c wil clear up mouth  sores....ccosts $5 in
health food store..2 pills every 2  hours.  Probitoics complex will also
help.  My md used to say  that what's going on in the stomach [stomach
virus] shows up  in the mouth.  Both of these really help


We found that citrus causes the sores in my daughter. Well, 90% of the
sores. She no longer eats oranges or drinks OJ, she eats a tomatoe here and
there  but when she does, she gets a sore.

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