Brother Habib,
Thanks for your last email to the list.I beg to differ that it is  a waste of time,depending on the Imam you follow within Sunni Islam (Hanbali,Malik,Shafi and Hanifi)that should dictate the action you follow.or take.let me illustrate this by asking you a question.Supposing,you are asked a question like this-" I am a new muslim having fasted for 30days and I follow the madhab of Imam Ahmed Hanbal,now i want to pay my zakaatut fitr.What would you answer be to this muslim brother ?

I pause for an answer.

Hope to hear from you soon.

musa.

Habib Ghanim <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Folks

Getting into details of what and how to give zakat is really insignificant and a waste of time

no matter what  this shayekh says or that alim says . We should concentrate on the Quran

The important thing is we give zakat el fitr and this year it has been calculated in the USA in our area as $10.00 per person in your household ,

so  barley and exaxt weights and all the other complications and methods  do not mean a thing

just $10.00 per person and that includes even a baby in your house hold

Why complicate things when it is so simple?? we should not make it difficult. Alim or no alim. there are tons of unauthentic hadiths but only one authentic Quran where it is based .ABC

The only significant part of the zakat fitr is that it must be given out to the needy before you pray on Eid day and or during any day in the holy month of Ramadan

habib






>From: Sal Barry <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list              <[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Charity at the end of Ramadan-Zakaat al -Fitr.
>Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2004 19:38:21 +0000
>
>QUESTION: Is it permission to discharge Zakaatul-Fitr in money? –
>with
>mention of evidences.
>
>
>ANSWER: Zakaatul Fitr is not permissible except (to be paid) from
>FOOD. And
>it is not allowed to discharge its value in money. This is because
>the
>Prophet (sal-Allaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam) made it obligatory ( to be
>discharged) from  a saa’ of dates or a saa’ of barley.
>Abu Sa’eed Al-Khudree (Radiallahu anhu) said  “We used to discharge
>it
>(       Zakaatul Fitr) in the time of the Prophet (sal Allaahu
>‘alayhe wa sallam)
>as a saa’ of FOOD…..). (Bukhaaree 2:582) Therefore, it is not lawful
>for any
>to discharge Zakaatul-Fitr from money (dirham) or clothing or
>household
>furnishings. Instead, that which is obligatory is to discharge it in
>what
>Allaah has made obligatory on the tongue of the Prophet ( sal
>Allaahu
>‘alayhe wa sallam). There is no consideration (weight) for the
>istihsaan
>[viewing of something to be good, without basis from the legal
>sources of
>Qur’aan and sunnah] of those of the people who viewed the giving of
>money as
>a good thing. The Law ( Sharee’ah) does not follow ( i.e. it is not
>secondary to) the opinion of people. No, it  ( the Law) is  from the
>One who
>is wise, knowing – Allaah (Subhaanahu wa-taa’la) – The Mighty, The
>Glorious,
>The Most Knowing, The Most Wise. So, if that which has been made
>obligatory
>by the tongue of Muhammad ( sal Allaahu ‘alayhe wa sallam) is a saa’
>of food
>then it is not permissible to bypass ( skip over ) that, no matter
>what our
>intellects make us to view as being good. Instead, it is a must that
>the
>human being question and suspect his intellect and views if it
>conflicts
>with, or contradicts, the Law of Allaah.
>
>
>Shaykh Ibn ‘Uthaymeen
>
>
>I had to retype the whole fatwa so all error/typos are entirely mine
>for
>that I ask for forgivess.
>Sal Barry
>
>Other Questions on Zakaatul-Fitr
>
>1.      The ruling for denying Zakaatul-Fitr
>2.      The ruling regarding forgetting to discharge the Zakaatul
>Fitr
>3.      Dispatched Zakaatul-Fitr to my country
>4.      Is it permissible to discharge the obligation of
>Zakaatul-Fitr on the
>first day of Ramadhaan? And is it permissible to distribute it in
>money.
>5.      What is the ruling in the case of someone compelled
>discharge
>Zakaatul-Fitr by money? And does it fulfill for him his obligation?
>6.      Is it permissible to discharge Zakaatul-Fitr from meat? Some
>of the
>desert dwellers don’t have food to distribute for Zakiaatul-Fitr, so
>is it
>permissible for them to slaughter some of their animals and
>distribute it to
>the poor.
>
>
>Fatwa-online contains fatwa information and resources provided by
>kibaar
>scholars of the muslim world. Kibaar scholars from my limited
>understanding
>are the cream of the crop among the scholars. Scholars refer/defer
>to the
>kibaar scholar in in Arabic as Kibaar Ulema.
>
>
>Ask Those Who Know
>Shaykh Muhammad Naasir ud-Deen al-Albaanee rahimahullaah
>Jami'at Ihyaa Minhaaj al-Sunnah
>________________________________________
>Question: Some who are seeking knowledge are very hasty in giving
>rulings in
>matters of halaal and haraam, and this is a common noticeable
>defect. What
>is your advice to such people?
>Reply: "We have spoken on this issue long before, and we said that
>Allaah
>the Wise has divided the Muslim community into two types of people:
>the Ahl
>adh-Dhikr, and those that depend on the Ahl adh-Dhikr. As Allaah
>says to the
>ordinary people: "Then ask those who possess the Message (Ahl
>adh-Dhikr) if
>you do not know." (Soorah 21:7 and 16:43)
>The Ahl adh-Dhikr are, as we all know, are the Ahl al-Qur’aan and
>the Ahl
>al-Hadeeth, those who know the authentic from the unauthentic, the
>general
>from the specific, the abrogating from the abrogated, and other such
>principles of Fiqh and Hadeeth.
>Hence, it is not allowed for a Muslim to begin giving fatwaas on the
>basis
>of some hadeeth, simply because he came across it in some book,
>although he
>does not know if it is saheeh according to the criteria of the
>scholars of
>hadeeth. On the other hand, he knows that he is not sufficiently
>well-versed
>in knowledge and competence in the Arabic language to explain the
>meanings
>and ideas behind the Kitaab and Sunnah. Therefore, anyone who has
>not
>decided to undertake acquiring knowledge and persevere in it for
>many years,
>until the people of knowledge testify that he can guide the people
>and
>direct them towads good, it is not permissible for him to thank that
>he is
>an alim (scholar) simply because he has read some ahadeeth and
>memorized
>some aayaat. We often hear of some of them who cannot even read the
>Qur’aan
>properly, nor the ahaadeeth of the Prophet sallallaahu 'alayhi wa
>sallam.
>This is why I advise the seekers of knowledge to study two
>fundamentals: a)
>the principles of fiqh and b) the principles of hadeeth.
>I have mentioned before that it is not easy for one to deduce the
>intended
>aim of the Lawgiver from any text unless he consults as far as
>possible, all
>the texts of the Qur’an and Sunnah. I will give a clear example:
>Allaah
>says: "Forbidden for you are dead meat, blood…" (5:4). If a beginner
>who is
>studying the Qur’aan and has no knowledge of hadeeth is asked
>regarding dead
>fish, he will immediately bring this aayah as proof to clearly
>forbid it
>since it prohibits dead meat. But were he to look into the
>ahaadeeth, he
>would know that the Prophet, sallallaahu 'alayhi wa sallam, excepted
>two
>types of animals, fish and locusts, from this prohibition, so he
>could rule
>accordingly.
>Briefly, the student must learn these two fundamental branches of
>learning
>to help to understand the Qur’aan and Sunnah as correctly as
>possible."
>________________________________________
>
>
>
>
>
>
>>From: "Ceesay, Soffie" <[log in to unmask]>
>>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
>><[log in to unmask]>
>>To: [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: Re: Charity at the end of Ramadan-Zakaat al -Fitr.
>>Date: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 06:42:08 -0500
>>
>>Jazzakallah!  May Allah shower you all with the richest of
>>blessings.  It
>>is indeed reassuring to know that there are others in my
>>predicament when
>>it comes to issues like this discussion thread and to think that
>>we've been
>>doing it wrongly all this time ....  Yes, Allah knows best and may
>>Allah
>>continue to guide our actions and intentions.  Saoud's argument
>>does ease
>>my mind.
>>
>>Soffie Ceesay
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: turay, sourie [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 5:55 AM
>>To: 'jsk'
>>Cc: samateh saikou; Amadu sallah; Alim sesay; murtada Sesay;
>>Ansumana
>>sillah; Karamba touray; Mam Touray; Jane Warner;
>>[log in to unmask]; Sai Njie; [log in to unmask]; Ginny
>>Quick; abdul
>>razim rahim; toegondoe sagbah; Musa Gassama; Habib Ghanim; Bashirou
>>Jahumpa; Ben Jalloh; mohammed jalloh; baba jallow; Fatou Jallow;
>>Dr. Alhaji
>>S. Jeng; Malik Jeng; saloum Jeng; Jabou Joh; malamin johnson;
>>SHEIKH
>>KAMARAH; Abu-Hassan Koroma; fatima -D; Ibrahim Abdullah;
>>[log in to unmask]; N Allotey; Ousman Bah; Sadu Bah; Abdul Karim
>>Bangura;
>>Salieu Barry; Ceesay, Soffie; [log in to unmask];
>>Muhammed
>>Drammah; Aiah Fanday; Alhaji Fye; Momodou Buharry Gassama;
>>[log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]
>>Subject: RE: Charity at the end of Ramadan-Zakaat al -Fitr.
>>
>>
>>Ngo Sami,
>>
>>On occasion like this when our thinking coincides with people like
>>you, it
>>bodes well for us. As soon as I read the posting, the first thing
>>that came
>>to my mind was, have we been doing it wrong all this time we have
>>been over
>>here and it took an a reassuring exchange with Copenhagen to settle
>>my
>>mind.
>>
>>Of course, we all grew up seeing our fathers measuring rice for
>>zakat-ul-fitr in what looked at the time a special mug for the
>>purpose.
>>That be almost impossible to do over here and the best possible way
>>is by
>>giving money as we all do. As Murtada suggests, we give the money
>>not to
>>individuals but to the mosque who are free to translate that into
>>whatever
>>will satisfy the requirements of the Sunnah!!
>>
>>You hit it right when you refer to Abu Saoud's distinction between
>>the
>>letter and spirit of the haddith!!
>>
>>I will join you in wishing Brother Musa, Allah's (SWT) richest
>>rewards for
>>the hard work that he continues to do for us and may He also reward
>>all of
>>us both here and back home with the blessings of Ramadan.
>>
>>Ramadan Mubarak.
>>
>>Sourie
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: jsk [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
>>Sent: 12 November 2004 10:19
>>To: [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]
>>Cc: samateh saikou; Amadu sallah; Alim sesay; murtada Sesay;
>>Ansumana
>>sillah; turay, sourie; Karamba touray; Mam Touray; Jane Warner;
>>[log in to unmask]; Sai Njie; [log in to unmask]; Ginny
>>Quick; abdul
>>razim rahim; toegondoe sagbah; Musa Gassama; Habib Ghanim; Bashirou
>>Jahumpa; Ben Jalloh; mohammed jalloh; baba jallow; Fatou Jallow;
>>Dr. Alhaji
>>S. Jeng; Malik Jeng; saloum Jeng; Jabou Joh; malamin johnson;
>>SHEIKH
>>KAMARAH; Abu-Hassan Koroma; fatima -D; Ibrahim Abdullah;
>>[log in to unmask]; N Allotey; Ousman Bah; Sadu Bah; Abdul Karim
>>Bangura;
>>Salieu Barry; soffie ceesay; [log in to unmask];
>>Muhammed
>>Drammah; Aiah Fanday; Alhaji Fye; Momodou Buharry Gassama
>>Subject: Re: Charity at the end of Ramadan-Zakaat al -Fitr.
>>
>>
>>As-salamu Alaykum Brother Musa:
>>
>>Ramadan Mubarak. May Allah (SWT) grant you and your family all the
>>blessings of Ramadan. Thanks for all the kutbahs you have been
>>sending and
>>may Allah (SWT) bless you for transmitting all that valuable
>>information
>>and may He give you the strength and resources to continue
>>informing us.
>>
>>The fact that the question of fulfilling the Zakat al--Fitr
>>obligation via
>>cash is addressed by these great Sheiks suggests that there is a
>>tendency
>>to make the substitution of cash for food. Certainly in most
>>Masjids in the
>>Philadelphia area, this substitution is common and we have, for
>>years,
>>adopted the practice of giving cash. May Allah (SWT) have mercy on
>>us if we
>>erred and forgive our Imams because, I am sure, they did not
>>deliberately
>>or willfully decide to mislead us.
>>
>>Relying on arguments presented by scholars like Mahmoud Abu-Saud,
>>it is
>>virtually impossible to adhere to the letters of the Sunnah of the
>>Prophet
>>(SAAS) in issues concerning Zakat. The question of substituting
>>rice for
>>the other foods mentioned in the hadith is in itself not strictly
>>following
>>the Sunnah. Furthermore, if even we are inclined to give food we
>>have the
>>added problem of translating these weights and measures into
>>contemporary
>>terms. We will be forced to make approximations. Approximations,
>>strictly
>>speaking, do not amount to strict adherence to the Sunnah. If even
>>it were
>>possible to reproduce the weights and measures; what criteria could
>>we use
>>to claim that a "saa" of rice is equivalent to a "saa" of date,
>>wheat or
>>barley? The question in this case has to deal with equivalent
>>ratio. The
>>only way out is to claim that a "saa" is a "saa" regardless of the
>>food
>>substance. But then, is a "saa' of rice equivalent to a "saa" of
>>banga (a
>>close relative of the date)?
>>
>>My brother, please forgive me for taking this approach to a very
>>serious
>>issue. However, I do feel that the ascription of Bida (innovation)
>>should
>>be revisited on a case by case issue. Please look at Abu-Saud's
>>work
>>"Contemporary Zakat". He does raise some interesting issues
>>covering the
>>whole concept of Zakat in a modern society. He makes a sharp
>>distinction
>>between the letter of the hadith and the spirit of the hadith.
>>
>>Ramadan MuBarak
>>
>>Sami.
>>
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