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actually, kendall this is constitutionally feasable. i
do not know how probable. i thought of this back with
the mess in 2000. i think it was a different speaker
back then, but, same senario.

--- Kendall David Corbett <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Interesting!
>
> Kendall
> I believe in an open mind, but not so open that your
> brains fall out.=20
> -Arthur Hays Sulzberger
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Janet Perkins Corbett=20
> Sent: Friday, October 22, 2004 4:55 PM
> To: Kendall David Corbett
> Subject: Electoral College Football
>
> Got this from CBS news...
>
> Electoral College Football
>
> (CBS) By David Paul Kuhn,=20
> CBSNews.com chief political writer
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------
> =20
> The Electoral College ties and Congress chooses the
> president. State
> delegations can't decide. The Senate splits.
> Republican Speaker of the
> House Dennis Hastert becomes president.=20
>
> The scenario may seem outlandish but it's certainly
> as plausible as what
> the world witnessed four years ago when a split
> Supreme Court ended the
> Florida recount and crowned George W. Bush the
> leader of the free world.
>
>
> In 2004, we have new solutions that may create new
> problems - a federal
> mandate to count provisional ballots; electronic
> voting machines that
> give no paper proof that a vote has been cast.=20
>
> But it's the nearly 220-year-old Electoral College
> that may be the bane
> of Election 2004. Here are some far-fetched and
> not-so-far-fetched
> possibilities:=20
>
> Electoral Vote Deadlock=20
>
> How it could happen: John Kerry wins the key swing
> states of Florida and
> Pennsylvania, along with Nevada, New Hampshire,
> Oregon and all of
> Maine's split electoral votes. President Bush
> balances Kerry's Florida
> triumph by capturing the Small Three - Minnesota,
> Wisconsin and Iowa -
> as well as Ohio and New Mexico.=20
>
> Result: A 269-269 tie - provided that the other 38
> states go as they did
> in 2000. The Constitution dictates that, in the
> event of an electoral
> vote tie, the House of Representatives selects the
> next president. And
> whether it is mighty California or meek Wyoming,
> each state delegation
> gets only one vote.=20
>
> President Bush likely wins in this scenario.
> Republicans have the
> majority in 30 state delegations, Democrats in 15.
> Even if delegations
> in states that went Republican, like Arkansas and
> Tennessee, went
> Democratic and the reverse occurred in Illinois and
> Michigan, the
> Republican advantage is too large to surpass.=20
>
> Only once has the House of Representatives picked a
> president. After
> two-dozen votes, the House handed Thomas Jefferson
> the presidency over
> Aaron Burr in 1800.=20
>
> But should the state delegations remain split - 25
> for Mr. Bush and 25
> for Kerry - and the Senate breaks even, come
> Inauguration Day the
> Speaker of the House is next in line for the Oval
> Office. The speaker
> also takes the presidency in the case that
> Kerry-Edwards ticket wins the
> election and both candidates die before taking
> office.=20
>
> A Maverick Elector - It Only Takes One=20
>
> When Americans vote on Nov. 2, they are choosing
> electors, not the
> president. The number of electors a state has is its
> total number of
> congressman plus senators. For example, California
> has 55 electors, the
> most of any state, based on its 53 congressmen and
> two senators. Wyoming
> gets just three for its two senators and one
> congressman. The amount of
> congressman a state is allotted depends on
> population; more people, more
> sway in Congress.=20
>
> The party that wins a state's popular vote gets to
> select all its
> electors. But federal law does not mandate that the
> electors follow the
> will of the electorate - or the party. What if one
> elector switched
> sides? Take Wyoming, what if one of its three
> electors went the other
> way?=20
>
> "I can't imagine that would happen," said Wyoming
> Secretary of State's
> Joseph Meyer.=20
>
> By all polling, Wyoming's popular vote will go
> Republican; it's Vice
> President Dick Cheney's home state. But one of the
> three GOP electors
> could select a Democrat.=20
>
> "There have been faithless electors," said John
> Fortier, executive
> director of the Continuity of Government Commission
> at the American
> Enterprise Institute. "It has never affected an
> election."=20
>
> Win the Popular Vote and Lose the Electoral Vote (or
> vice versa)=20
>
> This, of course, is what occurred in 2000.
> Democratic nominee Al Gore
> won the popular vote by 500,000 votes and lost the
> Electoral College by
> 5 votes. George W. Bush became the third candidate
> to lose the popular
> vote and win the presidency.=20
>
> (In 1824, John Quincy Adams won neither the popular
> nor the electoral
> vote. But he became president nonetheless with the
> support of the House
> of Representatives.)=20
>
> No president has lost the popular vote and won the
> presidency twice. Mr.
> Bush could be the first.=20
>
> It is also possible that he could win the popular
> vote but lose the
> Electoral College. But that's the most unlikely
> scenario because it
> requires a myriad of small states traditionally
> Republican to go
> Democratic.=20
>
> A Bush-Edwards Ticket, Or Nancy Pelosi Becomes First
> Female President=20
> It could happen. If the Electoral College splits for
> reasons already
> stated and it remains deadlocked until Inauguration
> Day, then the
> Speaker of the House takes office.=20
>
> But what if the Democrats regain control of
> Congress? The speaker would
> most likely be the current House Minority Leader,
> Nancy Pelosi of
> California.=20
>
> Speaker Pelosi would then become president provided
> the state
> delegations remained deadlocked. In the most
> roundabout, yet legal, of
> ways, Pelosi would become the first female
> president.=20
>
> There's also a chance, however slim, that a split
> Republican-Democratic
> ticket could be elected.=20
>
> Back in 1800, when Jefferson won the presidency
> after 36 votes in the
> House of Representative, Burr became the vice
> president, though both
> were from the same political party.=20
>
> Today, should the House of Representatives vote
> President
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