Brad, under options in MSN Messenger, to the tab General.  The first check
box should be unchecked if you don't want it to start up when you log on to
windows.
If that is unchecked and it still logs you on automatically, I wonder if
the problem might be because you are also on Windows Messenger.
Just a thought.
Helen

At 06:27 AM 1/19/04 -0600, you wrote:
>I tried searching but proved to be unfruitful hehehe. I'm having difficulty
>with MSN  Messenger automatically starting  up and signing me in despite my
>telling it not to, an same goes for Windows Messenger, which looks nearly
>exactly like MSN Messenger, and in fact has all my contacts in it even
>though I never opened the program before. I am looking for a list that
>deals with MSN Messenger, preferably from a blind perspective, but not
>necessarily necessary. I just need to not have this thing keep signing me
>in when ever the computer is on. I'll even get messages stating that I've
>logged on from another location and this one is shutting down lol.  These
>programs are far too controlling and proprietary. Any help as to the
>problem or an email  list of mention is appreciated.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Brad