Paul,

Perhaps you are right, but I'm a sinner. If I were in Rhonda's shoes, a
transplant from the south to the north, one child in Georgia, one at home,
taking college, husband in hospital, financial challenges ahead from hubby
in hospital, no extra money to take cab, very expensive, dealing with some
blues from it all, and a daughter that knows how to drive with half license
to be on the road?
Sorry but I'd have to take my chances, or really I'd probably ask my
daughter if she was willing to after giving her the info. It is probably
wrong by the law, but then again so is praying in schools these days. hehehehe.

She's probably a better driver than most because she has had training. If
she can negociate the likely busy streets of Philly on a learner's, she's
doing alright.

Signed. Bad Brad


At 12/17/2003 on Wednesday, lion ofgod wrote:
>Oh, sorry for the bad advice, Rhonda.  I didn't realize Christa only had a
>learner's permit and you were the only other person in the car.  In that
>case, Brad is right.  I guess the end really doesn't justify the
>means.  Even when we do what we need to do, we need to follow the letter
>of the law or we get in trouble. Sigh.
>
>Paul
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: BD <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Dec 16, 2003 4:40 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: surgery and a ticket!
>
>Paul,
>
>Before I'd do that, I'd check the legality of a learner's permit. Here in
>Wisconsin and in Texas you need a licensed driver in the car. If they asked
>about Rhonda's license or in protestin git, they call in the officer as
>they normally do, and he sees Rhonda with her guide dog, that might not be
>good, they may be looking at a larger ticket? If it is legal to have a
>non-licensed driver in the car alone, then that might be something to
>consider. It is a tough thing. When I lived in Texas my daughter had a
>learner's permit and I needed her to drive me somewhere as I had no other
>ride and we did  I wouldn't recommend it as a practice, but their are times
>when one must do what one must do? Probably not perfect in thought, but
>what does one do when you are up against two hard spots and it seems to be
>raining out.
>
>Brad
>
>At 12/16/2003 on Tuesday, you wrote:
> >Hey, Rhonda
> >
> >Can't Christa fight the ticket?  I think you can fight it if you think it
> >really isn't fair.
> >
> >Paul
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Rhonda" <[log in to unmask]>
> >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> >Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 12:22 PM
> >Subject: surgery and a ticket!
> >
> >
> > > I had feared it would happen.
> > > I had wondered when, but I couldn't think of an alternative!
> > > and today...
> > > Christa went through a yellow light and the policeman said it was red
> > > when she was under it.
> > > He looked at her license and asked her where she got them,  anyway
> > > theshort of it all is we have a ticket for  running a red light, which
> > > Christa says was yellow.
> > > He didn't ask about me, my license, or id, so that is good!
> > > My goodness! such stress early in the day.
> > > Well we do have money for the ticket, 104,  it is just a concern, do I
> > > continue to  drive with Christa, or should we try and figure out
> > > something else?
> > > I tried to tell the officer that we had just recently moved here,but he
> > > rudely said that he was not speaking with me.
> > > So... that is the story for today,
> > > Ben isn't out of surgery yet, think maybe I'll just pay this ticket and
> > > tell him later when he feels better, no use in worrying him.
> > > Rhonda