Wow good point.

Lelia


----- Original Message -----
From: "John Schwery" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: a revelation


> Lelia, I remember from school, in church history classes, that some guy
> named Certulian said, that the seed of the church is the blood of the
martyrs.
>
> earlier, lelia, wrote:
> >Hi all, this might sound weird but oh well here goes anyway.
> >
> >I just had to share this.  I am studying the book of Daniel and  am just
> >reading how each king that Daniel is under basically has to be shown that
> >God is who He is.  Well, in our bible study we are studying the book of
Job.
> >Well, in our church there is this guy who just well, its sad but he is
> >thinking of us as God and Satan's pawns and Job is one of them too.
Well, I
> >finally get the picture I think and if I am wrong please let me know.
Ok,
> >Adam and Eve s
> >
> >Ok adam and Eve sinned ok got it, Now when God called Abraham he told
> >Abraham that he would kmake him a father of nations or many right?
Right.
> >Then we have the israelites who just couldn't get it they would sin and
God
> >would deliver them but through there sins people saw there sin and how
God
> >delivered them, that was part of the world seeing God's mercies.  Ok so
we
> >have all the judges and kings and trials of Israel but the world is
seeing
> >all of what is going on with Israel and what Israels God is doing to and
for
> >and with them.  Get it?  So God through the Israelites is showing the
world
> >of his awesomeness.  His power what He can do.  Then we have characters
like
> >David and Moses who sin but God loves them and He forgives them so there
we
> >have God's forgiveness.  I remember Christ was saying how you can't
> >understand the old testament because and if I'm saying this wrong forgive
me
> >but something like that God seemed cruel.  No, He's not, he is loving and
> >forgiving but He is a father too and what does a father do but discipline
> >you.  Ok so I digress sorry.  So we have David who is a man after God's
own
> >heart David commits sins but David is a big part of the line of Jesus
wow.
> >I'm still with Israel here, we have the prophets saying to them come on
guys
> >get with the picture or your in trouble then the israelites are captured
and
> >go to Babylon and then there is Daniel who is favoured with men and God
and
> >through Daniel God shows who and what He can do,He helps Daniel interpret
> >dreams and stuff like that.  Then we go forward to Jesus birth death and
> >resurection.  Jesus gets his disciples and what do those disciples and
> >apostles do?  They go into all the world preaching and teaching the
gospel
> >and here we are.  I guess my point is that if the Israelites hadn't
sinned
> >if Job hadn't questioned God if Jesus hadn't been born died and arose
again
> >we wouldn't have known.  I guess I am saying I see God's reasons for
doing
> >what He did.  You even have the martyrs who through there faith died and
> >spread christianity through there faith.  Gosh I know what I'm trying to
say
> >and maybe its just rambling to you all but I hope to someone it will make
> >some sense.
> >
> >Lelia
>
> John
>
>    Save a tree, kill a beaver
>