Hi Helen and List

I must have missed some of this thread, but I'll put in my two sense anyway.
I don't think it matters to the lLord when we celebrate a day of rest, but I
think, however, that we need to set aside time to read meditate and praise
and worshi[p Him and to "rest" from our labors.
I found out also that last year when I lived in Ontario and we we were
selling Armine's house, that we needed to keep Sunday as the Sabbath, so we
wouldn't
 stumble those we were associaited with who kept Sunday.
I think also one of the things I have learned from living in Christian
Communities for over thirty years is this: if you use those scriptures in
Is. 57 to show that the sabbath is only spiritual, then for many of us, our
natural work got in the way, and we worked all the time and didn't give the
Lord enough time.
I have to look it up, but didn't the Lord establish the Sabbath so that
people would rest?
Of course, then the Pharisees took it all to the extreme and tried to kill
Jesus because he healed and did miracles on the Sabbath.  Just give
unregenerate man a law, and he will kill you with it.
Just some random thoughts.
Vinny Hello Everyone,
>
> I was witnessing a discussion on a mailing list recently, about which day
> should be observed as the Lord's sabbath.  Is it Saturday or is it
> Sunday.?  I'll share with you a portion of a post, and then copy and paste
> my reply to it.
> For your edification in the Lord.
> Helen
>
> [Tom writes]
> Resting in the arms of the Lord is easy, yet the most difficult thing to
> do. Many cannot grasp the "simplicity" of Christ, so we go around
> establishing our "own" righteousness which has to do with OUR "personal"
> performance. So I see the observance of any Law in terms
> of obligation to "specifically" obey in order to achieve or maintain
> "right" standing with God as the incorrect way to approach God.
>
> [Helen replies]
> It is my understanding that the word "sabbath" means "rest".  To those of
> us who believe in Jesus Christ and His finished work at Calvary, that
> sabbath rest is the Lord Himself!!  If we are entered into Him by faith,
> then we are entered into that Sabbath.
>
> Heb. 4:3 For we which have believed do enter into rest, as he said, As I
> have sworn in my wrath, if they shall enter into my rest: although the
> works were finished from the foundation of the world.
>
> Heb 4:9  There remaineth therefore a rest to the people of God.
>
> Heb 4:10  For he that is entered into his rest, he also hath ceased from
> his own works, as God did from his.
>
> It is also my understanding that the observance of a sabbath day was
> instituted under the Hebraic Law, given to the Jews to observe as
obedience
> to God.
>
> We who are Gentile believers in Christ were *never* under that Law!
>
> Ga 3:23  But before faith came, we (Jews) were kept under the law, shut up
> unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
> Ga 4:4  But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son,
> made of a woman, made under the law,
> Ga 4:5  To redeem them (Jews) that were under the law, that we (gentiles)
> might receive the adoption of sons.
> Ga 4:21  Tell me, ye that desire to be under the law, do ye not hear the
law?
> Ga 5:18  But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.
>
> So we who by faith have entered into that Sabbath rest who is Christ Jesus
> (the One who fulfilled all the Law:  Mt 5:17  Think not that I am come to
> destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to
> fulfil.)  we have ceased from our works to become righteous or to be
> pleasing to God, for Christ is our righteousness. Ro 10:4  For Christ is
> the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth.
>        1Co 1:30  But of him are ye in Christ Jesus, who of God is made
unto
> us wisdom, and righteousness, and sanctification, and redemption:
>
> So if a believer in Christ Jesus understands that "keeping the Sabbath" is
> on the first day of the week and it is observed as "unto the Lord", and
> another believer understands that "keeping the Sabbath" is on the seventh
> day of the week and it is observed as "unto the Lord",  and believe that
> their observance is a symbol of the Sabbath rest which is Christ Jesus
> Himself, then may there be Peace amongst them as they continue in their
> search for Truth, is my prayer.