Jabou, have I ever insulted you?  What I am trying to establish to you is
that how I go about dealing with criminals and murderers of Gambians is not
for you or anyone to regulate.  What I find bizarre in all this is that you
are willing to silence anyone that deals with Ebou Jollow that is contrary
to your opinion.  When you engaged in that marathon discussion with him, did
anyone stop you or continuously tell you it's a waste of your time?  No,
folks left you to find out for your self.  Now, why can't you do the same
with folks that see Ebou from a different lens?  Jabou, is Ebou Jallow just
anyone?  Here you have a thief and witness/participant to murders and you
refer to him as anyone?  This is why I suggest you deal with Ebou Jallow in
your own terms and let others do likewise.  Do you think we are going to run
out of witnesses and evidence in that country?  There are literally hundreds
that are still in that country who knew what went down and are clean and
will volunteer information and evidence when that time comes.  If you say
you are impatient to wait for that and instead opt to pick up Ebou and dust
him off for his dog and pony show, I say more power to you.  Jabou, Ebou has
lied on everything he told us and he has every reason to lie and continue to
lie to us.  Even the US states are on the verge of discontinuing the use of
jail house snitches for they have every reason and interest to lie about
anything and anybody to save their necks.  Jabou, in your dealings with Ebou
Jallow, has he ONCE every told you any crimes he committed?  Just ONCE?  If
the answer is know, is that normal - squeaky clean? The folks that are
running to us and crying wolf did not just quit or resigned in disgust.  No,
they were fired or embezzled their way out, the reason for coming to us.
Had they not been fired or absconded you would never have heard from them.

Jabou, if not seeing the world in your eyes exhibit lack of intelligence on
my part, then I will gladly remain unintelligent.  Frankly, this is not
about Ebou Jallow but something deeper.  However, I am not bothered.

Chi Jaama

Joe Sambou


>From: Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Regarding Ebou Colle/Joe Sambou
>Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2004 21:02:48 EST
>
>Joe Sambou,
>
>I do not want to be at the receiving end of your barage of insults since i
>am
>only interested in intelligent discourse and the exchange of ideas, which
>is
>really the only thing that will produce results. However, It appears that
>you
>make every effort to silence anyone who wants to tell us what they know
>about
>this regime, all in the name of fighting for the people. I find this
>interesting and bizarre at the same time.
>
>Jabou Joh
>
>
>
>
>In a message dated 1/7/04 11:52:46 AM Central Standard Time,
>[log in to unmask] writes:
>
> >
> > "Threatening and eventually rounding up people and shooting them is not
>and
> > will never be an option, at least not in the society I envision."
> >
> > Jabou, thanks for your comments.  I take it that you are responding to
>my
> > comment to Ebou Jallow.  Can you please show me where I used the phrase
> > "rounding up people and shooting them".  Jabou, how you choose to relate
>to
> > Ebou is your prerogative.  However, I will continue to deal with Ebou in
>my
> > own terms and I ask you to please quit trying to persuade me otherwise.
>We
> > have gone this route before.
> >
> >
> > "Let us reflect on what "ebou colly" had to say and remember that we
>simply
> > cannot afford to encourage unchecked brutality in our midst now or in
>the
> > future."
> >
> > Now, aside from the name Ebou Colley, what do you know about Ebou
>Colley?
> > Has Ebou Colley told us anything he did, or you do not care to ask as
>long
> > as he point at others?  Are we just supposed to absolve anyone that runs
>to
> > us and point at others?  No, a thinking person should ask the Ebou
>Colleys
> > and Jallows of this world what role they played while they were there?
>Why
> > they are talking after they were fired or caught stealing?  Ebou Colley
>was
> > detained and tortured by none other than Yaya.  However, he turned right
> > back and took an offer from Yaya and gun ran with them until he was
>fired.
> > It was after he was fired that he came to us.  So, I appreciate him
>telling
> > us what others did, but I equally want to know what he did and why after
>his
> > torture he still went to work for his torturer.  Now, do I ask that of
>Jabou
> > or any other?  No, each to their own.  That is all I ask.  No blind
>loyalty
> > from my end.
> >
> > I was forwarded this message, so pardon me if I do not respond to your
> > response in a tinely manner.  George, I'll take this opportunity to take
> > your offer to access G-Post.  Thanks in advance.
> >
> > Chi Jaama
> >
> > Joe Sambou
> >
> >
> >
> > George & Haruna,
> >
> > Thanks.
> > I want to point out that the re-posts of "ebou colly's" gruesome
>revelations
> > of murder and mayhem are not intended to be mere strolls down memory
>lane,
> > but a timed reminder to all Gambians everywhere of the long list of
> > atrocities
> > that have been committed by the APRC regime as relayed by "ebou colly".
>His
> > allegations must be looked into. Now that the web is closing in on this
> > regime by
> > their own hands, I think these revelations will hold much more meaning
>and
> > get the attention of all Gambians, as well as remind us that there are a
> > long
> > list of people waiting for justice, and the list keeps getting longer
> > with each
> > passing day that the APRC regime stays in power aided by gullible
>people.
> >
> > May I also take the opportunity to add that in order to be able to
>prosecute
> > people effectively, the people need evidence which only the testimony of
> > those
> > who witnessed specific crimes can lead us to. Otherwise, we can ramble
>all
> > day and in the end, we have nothing, especially in the face of
>uncollected
> > or
> > destroyed foressic evidence. Threatening and eventually rounding up
> > people and
> > shooting them is not and will never be an option, at least not in the
> > society
> > I envision. Intelligent strategysing that allows those who would be
>willing
> > to become witnesses for the people to resolve to come forward will be
>much
> > more productive.
> > Let us reflect on what "ebou colly" had to say and remember that we
>simply
> > cannot afford to encourage unchecked brutality in our midst now or in
>the
> > future.
> > Jabou Joh
> >
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