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You been to my house? How did you know I eat with my fingers? Spaghetti is
messy and soup is worse so we rarely have that hehehehehehe.

Brad


At 12/22/2003 on Monday, you wrote:
>You're right, Brad.  I think the LORD is always concerned about motivation
>but not so much concerned about the details.  For example, if the motivation
>for setting out the best silverware is because the intent is to instill
>jealousy in the folks coming to dinner, that's an issue the LORD will deal
>with and a trip to the woodshed may be forthcoming.  But if there's no
>ulterior motive in the selection, He just wants us to enjoy the dinner and
>get on with it, with silverware or plastic cutlery or fingers, whatever.
>
>Paul
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "BD" <[log in to unmask]>
>To: <[log in to unmask]>
>Sent: Monday, December 22, 2003 6:23 PM
>Subject: Re: Bike lost no one hurt
>
>
> > Helen,
> >
> > I remember in my spiritual milk drinking days, I was getting some counsel
> > from a great brother in the Lord. He said he found it irritating when
> > people would ask God stuff like which silverware to set out for dinner
>with
> > company and etc. lol. We are to seek God in what we do, but there are some
> > things I believe God could care less about.
> >
> > Brad
> >
> >
> > Brad
> >
> > At 12/22/2003 on Monday, you wrote:
> > >Excellent post, Brad!
> > >
> > >Helen
> > >
> > >At 10:04 AM 12/22/03 -0600, you wrote:
> > > >Mat,
> > > >
> > > >We live in a fallen world, in times where stuff just happens. Over
> > > >Christianizing such happenings is probably as bad as the opposite, that
>of
> > > >ignoring God's involvement in our lives at all. I wonder how God feels
> > > >getting the blame for work of the enemy? Isn't he, the enemy the one
>who
> > > >came to kill, steal and destroy? That does not mean to ignore the
>events
> > > >and happenings in our life and not look for God's hand in it, but
>things
> > > >happen and mistakes happen, and we deal with them. I like your
>scripture
> > > >reference on shutting people up lol. Actually a scripture that  helps
>me,
> > > >and I am not sure of it's location right off, but says to the effect...
> > > >
> > > >All things are turned for the good of those who believe in God. Some
> > > >translations say "who love God". If anyone knows where this is, let me
> > > >know. I ought have it memorized chapter and verse and verbatim, but do
>in
> > > >gist of application.  This is sometimes mistaken for saying that all
>good
> > > >things happen to those who believe, and if you are having difficulties,
> > > >then you don't believe enough... hogwash! That is not the point it
>means.
> > > >Point being that not all things we endure come from God, but they are
> > > >turned for the good of those who love and believe and trust in God.
> > > >Sometimes that may mean just leaning on God for peace and strength
>which is
> > > >more valuable than the occurence or loss in the first place. I did run
> > > >across another scripture to help shut folks up if you like lol.
> > > >
> > > >1 Thess 4:11
> > > >11 and to make it your ambition to lead a quiet life and attend to your
>own
> > > >business and work with your hands, just as we commanded you
> > > >
> > > >I'm sure they are meaning well and trying to give you hope, but
>sometimes
> > > >the transparency of those ideals are insulting more than comforting.
> > > >Biblical patronizing? Seems all would be able to see through those
> > > >attempts, but I guess not. I'd rather deal with that fact I didn't
>remove
> > > >the canvas top, it caught some air, yanked the bike out the truck and
>boom!
> > > >Rather than spiritualizing it and wondering if God is telling me not to
> > > >ride the bike? Will we get hurt? Will we hurt the baby? Were we about
>to
> > > >get in an accident in that pick up truck, the old man isn't saved yet,
>and
> > > >God whipped the bike off the truck to stop us? Was the pin striping on
> > > >crooked and so he trashed the bike so we ought get a new one? lol What
>is
> > > >the great meaning behind this? Just as we can, without God in our
>lives,
> > > >run circular equations, never getting an answer, we can do this too as
>God
> > > >being the brunt of that never ending loop. Sometimes we don't know why
> > > >things happen and just need to chalk it up to not knowing and that God
>will
> > > >work it out in the end. In your quest of Christianity depth you will
>run
> > > >across doom and gloomers and those with Santa Claus in the sky
>attitudes
> > > >looking to be blessed out of their socks with gifts and etc. So one
>needs
> > > >to keep that knowledge  in mind when being guided by others. If one
> > > >lives  each day in prayer over such purchases and etc. one will know
> > > >already what to do according to God's prompting and no need to second
> > > >guess... as much lol I say as much because we sometimes miss it, but
>then
> > > >we know that we know we did. Sounds good the body shop guy might be
>able to
> > > >fix it up some. That might be cheaper than buying a new one. Of course
>it
> > > >ought be safe, but I'd think it could be so if not trampled
>completely.
> > > >
> > > >Brad

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