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Kathleen Salkin <[log in to unmask]>
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Thu, 6 Apr 2006 18:37:30 -0400
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Well, I was the LTD administrator for my company until they moved me  
to HR systems.  I found it frustrating to deal with employees who  
kept applying for SSDB and kept getting denied but they had to apply  
as it was a requirement of our LTD plan.  Of course just as  
frustrating were the idiots who thought they would never need LTD,  
got disabled anyway, and would yell at me because I couldn't help  
them.  All I could do was steer them towards SSA but that was usually  
a wasted effort (at least if they had been out on disability for  
under 24 months).  I remember one guy who was particularly nasty --  
he was disabled from some sort of spinal problem from birth but  
didn't elect to participate in the LTD plan when he first became  
eligible. He was really angry at me when I told him there was nothing  
I could do for him when he became too disabled to do his job -- I  
couldn't even recommend a SSDB lawyer as that was against company  
policy.

For those who ask, "LTD" = "long term disability."

Kat



On 6 Apr 2006, at 18:14, Kendall David Corbett wrote:

Kat,

You're pretty much on target.  SSI (Supplemental Security Income) is  
what most people who have been disabled from birth (who apply, and  
are approved) get.  SSI amounts are usually much lower than SSDI  
amounts - the last figure I knew of was in the $500 - $600/month range

SSDI (Social Security Disability Income) is what people who become  
disabled after working and contributing to Social Security for a  
given number of quarters get.  The amount a person who receives SSDI  
receives is dependent on the amount that they've contributed to  
social security, and the length of time that they've been  
contributing, as well as Cost of Living Adjustments (COLA's).

Neither SSI or SSDI are automatic; a person or their family has to  
apply, and prove they have a disability.  In Wyoming, around 85% of  
first time SSI/SSDI applications are rejected.  In many cases with  
SSDI, an applicants medical records are reviewed by the Disability  
Determination unit of Social Security, and these records are sent to  
an independent examiner (paid by Social Security) who reviews the  
records.  In most cases, the examiner then performs an exam of the  
applicant, to determine whether the physical findings and the records  
agree.

If a person is approved for either SSI or SSDI, there is a waiting  
period to become eligible for Medicare benefits (in SSDI cases, the  
waiting period is two years, and I think it's a similar time frame  
for SSI).

Kendall Corbett
Coordinator of Consumer Activities
Wyoming INstitute for Disabilities - WIND
College of Health Sciences
University of Wyoming
1000 E. University Avenue, Dept. 4298
Laramie, WY  82070
(307) 766-2853
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-----Original Message-----
From: Kathleen Salkin [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 2:52 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: MediCare Part D

I may be oversimplifying things but it's my impression that if you
paid into the Social Security system and become disabled, you get
SSDB; on the other hand, if you can't make a living because of your
disability and you haven't paid into the Social Security system via
Medicare/FICA taxes, you get SSI.  Of course as I said, I could be
totally wrong.

So just because someone has CP, it doesn't mean they qualify for
Medicare Part D, or any part of Medicare.

Kat


On 6 Apr 2006, at 17:17, Kendall David Corbett wrote:

Chester,

Since the amount of money most people who get SSI receive is pretty low,
you probably qualify for Medicaid on income level.  People with CP don't
_automatically_ qualify for any government benefits.

Kendall

An unreasonable man (but my wife says that's redundant!)

The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all
progress depends on the unreasonable man.

-George Bernard Shaw 1856-1950

-----Original Message-----
From: Chester Worwa [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 1:59 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: MediCare Part D

I get SSI.

--- "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
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> Not unless you qualify for it=2E  I know that here
> in NC you have to be at=
>
> the poverty level to qualify for Medicaid=2E  Most
> CP people I know are
> privately insured through their families or jobs=2E
>
> Also, it's my understanding that you don't qualify
> for Medicare unless
> you're collecting SSI or SSDB=2E
>
> Kat
>
>
>
>
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Chester Worwa cworwa@YAHOO=2ECOM
> Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2006 11:22:42 -0700
> To: C-PALSY@LISTSERV=2EICORS=2EORG
> Subject: Re: MediCare Part D
>
>
> Don't we get Medicaid since we have CP=3F
>
> --- Kathy Pink <kathyjpink@HOTMAIL=2ECOM> wrote:
>
>> Have anybody else had problems with MediCare Part
> D=3F
>> =20
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