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Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]>
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ken, what kind of things would the senators represent the states for? this
is an interesting series of emails.

And the thing about state's rights is that the feds use it when they want
to, and when they don't, like with medical marijuana they say, no, you have
to follow federal law... but the whole drug war has been a joke and could
be using our money for better things.

I hope we get out voting materials this week, as I'm tired of the ads for
props i don't know about yet!

Tamar Mag Raine
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IM: tamarmag48
Oakland Mayor's Commission on People with disabilities


> [Original Message]
> From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: 10/1/2004 9:29:25 PM
> Subject: Re: Dumb Limey!!
>
> you r exactly right mike, but, it was set up when
> there were wigs and toreys not dems and republicans.
> the founders did not wantjust a few heveily populated
> states running the country. unless you in virginia
> want what calif. and new york and mass wants including
> the taxes, it was designed to keep that from
> happening.
>  do away with the EC and the country will break up in
> just a few election cycles. remember you heard it here
> first.
>   also a part of this was the senate. it was never
> concieved by the founders that the senate would be
> elected by popular vote. the house was to represent
> the people and the senate to represent the state. the
> popular election of senators has somewhat corrupted
> the confimation process for the courts and did away
> with an important check and balance of our juditial
> branch.
> more than you wanted to know probably.
> --- Mike Collis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Hi Deri,
> >
> > The electoral college comes from states rights, and
> > each states has a
> > certain number of votes, depending upon population.
> > California and
> > Massachusetts are hugely High density Democratic
> > strongholds that the
> > popular vote from those states would overwhelm the
> > popular vote in the
> > states which are Republican. Instead of the winner
> > take all mentality
> > now being shown by the electoral college to the
> > states, I wonder what
> > would happen if we did the math by percentages, not
> > by winner take all.
> > At least those of us voting our protests wouldn't
> > feel so left out.
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > Tag: Warning!  This Powerchair has an attitude
> > problem!!!
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> > Deri James
> > Sent: Friday, October 01, 2004 6:13 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Dumb Limey!!
> >
> > Can someone tell me what are the advantages of the
> > Electoral College
> > system
> > over more democratic systems.
> >
> > UK is in the same boat as the USA here - not unknown
> > for the "result" to
> > not
> > match the popular vote. Other European countries
> > seem to have adopted
> > systems
> > which produce a parliament which more closely
> > matches the popular vote.
> >
> > I do find it funny that the UK touts its
> > "democracy", but in fact the
> > system
> > is designed to perpetuate 2 party politics, which
> > can't possibly
> > accurately
> > reflect the broad range of opinions in society.
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Deri
> >
>
>
>
>
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