hello all. what is this all about please?
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> chris, why am I funny? I don't know you very well, you could have a kid
for
> all I know. the others on here certainly know you better than I do. Who's
> kid is she then?
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> From: "Chris" <[log in to unmask]>
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> > What??????????????
> >
> >
> > N'n'n'n'n'n'n'no!  LOL!
> >
> > At least, i certainly hope not!  Heheheheheh.
> >
> > Carry, you're too funny.  LOL!
> >
> >
> > Chris.
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "kerri" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 12:16 AM
> > Subject: Re: What is you all's opinion?
> >
> >
> > > Cris, is this your kid?
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Chris" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 4:34 PM
> > > Subject: What is you all's opinion?
> > >
> > >
> > > > i'm warning yall.  This is quite darn lengthy, but I promise ya:
It's
> > > worth
> > > > the entire read from beginning to end as I do have some pretty deep
> > > > questions.  Get ready, cause again, I say:  this? is?  deep!
> > > >
> > > > how many of you all believe in gardian angels?  Besides you Phil, i
> > > already
> > > > know that you do.
> > > >
> > > > i've never had a spiritual encounter with one, however, I do know
now
> > more
> > > > than ever in my life, that i do have a gardian angel.  I just know
it,
> > and
> > > > know that she is constantly at work.  Granted, she might only be 5
> years
> > > > old, I know well enough that even 5 isn't too young to be one...  If
> you
> > > > don't believe me, then explain this to me:
> > > >
> > > > Why every time that I see her, which is almost hardly never, is it
> > mearly
> > > > impossible for either of us to keep from both crying histerically at
> the
> > > > exact same time?  Why is it that even though she's 5, she still has
> the
> > > > maturity to call me every single day, and not even miss one.  let's
> put
> > it
> > > > this way, it's extre'ee'ee'eemly dangerous when a child of this age
> has
> > > > neumonia yet, even then, when she once did at age 4, about a year
ago,
> > > even
> > > > then! she made it a point each day, even if it meant her constantly
> > > coughing
> > > > etc. she made it a point even then to call me...  She's even at her
> age
> > > now,
> > > > told me that she would die for me...  She said this firstly for the
> > first
> > > > time, at age 3.  Now, if you can sit here and tell me, that a 3 year
> old
> > > is
> > > > going to have the branes to know what it means to give and lay down
> > their
> > > > life for someone, then I wanna know what child you are talking about
> and
> > > > would ya mind me adopting it?  LOL!  only kidding.  Back on a more
> > serious
> > > > note though:  This is a really deep topic, and i don't have all the
> > > answers;
> > > > I don't think any of us do:  I think angels, may or may not, be
> > physically
> > > > formed.  It really depends on your perspective as to how they will
end
> > up
> > > > being perceived by you as an individual.  And if anyone's raising
the
> > > > question now, well I have a very dear relative, or friend, who I
think
> > > might
> > > > be a gardian angel, but how do I know...  This is gonna be hard for
me
> > to
> > > > explain if you haven't already experienced the feeling, andc Phil,
> maybe
> > > you
> > > > can help me reword this a little more simply.  That is my point.
You,
> > as
> > > > yourself, won't know!  you won't ever know!  it's your spirit, and
> your
> > > soul
> > > > that will.  Then through those indications, you can then as a person
> > > > physically, begin to take on the ability of knowing.
> > > >
> > > > let me give an example, and I don't think this is gonna really
> clarify,
> > > but
> > > > it might...
> > > >
> > > > i thought all along that my cousin jessica was my gardian angel.
> Well,
> > I
> > > > thought this up until literally last night...  Yes, I still love
her,
> O
> > my
> > > > God!  I'd die and willingly rot, and burn...  OK, that's getting
> > > > inappropriate, so I'll stop that comment, but you get the poihnt.
> Yes,
> > I
> > > > still would, however, there's a very big difference in love, verses
> > angel
> > > > gardianship...  I can't explain it...  it could take under my
belief,
> > > years
> > > > before you'd ever know, i just find it funny, how the first time I
> ever
> > > met
> > > > this person who now I know it really is, at 9 months old, right then
> and
> > > > there, the first time I ever fed her her bottle, and held her, even,
> for
> > > > that matter:  I knew, right away, this relationship was faaaaar!
more
> > than
> > > > just friendship, or love...  i think the thing was though:  I
> purposely
> > > > tried to dismiss it, as it sort a scared me...  No? not cause of
> that...
> > > No
> > > > way!  it just did, more in general, i guess cause i new we lived
over
> > 1000
> > > > miles away, and I didn't want to cling to her too much, as I knew if
I
> > > did,
> > > > it would wreck me...  Well, sure enough, o, it wrecked me all right!
> > > Nearly
> > > > physically killed me! to be more precise.  So, my question really
> well,
> > > > yeah, one, is, how many of you all believe that this day in time,
God
> > > really
> > > > does send angels through the physical formities of a child, or an
> adult,
> > > and
> > > > I'm not refering to romance, o she's my angel, I mean more deeply,
> > > > spiritually.  OK, I'm gonna say something, and if you all choose to
> > object
> > > > to it, then, ok.  but I do wanna get one thing very clear:
> > > >
> > > > just as you all have the God given right to express your beliefs, I
> feel
> > I
> > > > openly should be able to as well, so if you all disagree, then fine,
> but
> > > > let's agree to disagree, and not start up any anamosity.
> > > >
> > > > I myself, believe that God is the creator of all people and all
> things.
> > > he
> > > > created people in his own image...  however! there are certain
people
> > who
> > > > he's specificly created at some time or another who do have God
> speaking
> > > > through them...  um...  Gosh this is difficult to explain...  i'm
> > trying,
> > > > really I am...  but it's almost on a spiritual level beyond physical
> > > > comprehention.  Think of it like this:
> > > >
> > > > When a human is born, God has a plan for them quite obviously.
> Whether
> > > they
> > > > choose to follow that plan, is a different thing altogether...  but
> > > > anyway....  I feel like that God has created angels in the form of
> > people.
> > > > No no no no, don't get the wrong idea here.  i'm not saying that
they
> > are
> > > > part of, or have a part of the trenity, I'm saying that even though
> they
> > > are
> > > > an angel, they don't have a haylo or wings.  yes, I think that there
> are
> > > > those types, but they are only seen more rarely...  i think though
> that
> > > God,
> > > > has created certain people to be "gardian angels."  I feel like they
> may
> > > > have gosh... what's the word....  not.... rejuvinated... that's no
> where
> > > > close to what I'm looking for, nor is carma anywhere close...  I'm
not
> > > that
> > > > spiritually sick... LOL!  Um...  It's more like...  They... were in
> > > heaven,
> > > > I guess is what I'm trying to say, when they really were born
first...
> > > > Then, through means of another birth, after God has maybe told them
> his
> > > plan
> > > > for them, he sends them to earth, as a baby through means of another
> > > humanly
> > > > birth.  This goes back to an interesting question that was presented
> to
> > my
> > > > pastor by myself.  Again, this is deep, so bare with me...
> > > >
> > > > When we are created:  Were we created and right now, actually, we
> > already
> > > > are in heaven, but don't know it...  Don't stop reading, I have my
> > reason
> > > of
> > > > thinking, and you might find it facenating if you read on...  I know
> > that
> > > > last comment may offend people, but if you'd let me explain, I don't
> > think
> > > > it will in the long run...
> > > >
> > > > See, often times, I've heard that when you die, it's like a new
> > awakening.
> > > > Well, I really stopped and thought about that for a bit...  What
if...
>
> > we
> > > > are already dead, we're already in heaven, yet, are totally asleep
> there
> > > and
> > > > not aware of it...  What is here now on earth that we're
experiencing
> is
> > > > only a dream.  We think it's reality though as we've never seen
> reality
> > > > which is, hince?  Right!  Heaven!  or in some people's case?  Hell!
> > > >
> > > > So, really we're already there, we just don't know it...  kind of a
> > > freakie
> > > > concept.  Anyway, I could go on with these philisofical questions
for
> > days
> > > > upon years, but I don't wanna bore yall, so just let me know about
> this
> > > > first, and we'll take it from there.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Take care.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Chris.
> > > >
> > >
>
>