Yeah, but apparently I was wrong by bringing it up, so, don't worry, I won't
post my own topics ever again.  NO need to thank me...


Thank those who made it possible.


Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "j.ireland" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2004 12:04 AM
Subject: Re: What is you all's opinion?


> Chris,
>
> I too believe the Lord sends us angels for assistance.  I certainly think
> it's possible to have a guardian angel.  I do believe the ?Bible teaches
> that these are different beings than a man or woman or even a child.
> Children are wonderful and whatever special connection there is between an
> adult and a child is different than an angelic visit and a person.
>
> I am glad you had the courage to bring up a topic, though, as you've
found,
> there are varying opinions on it.
>
> Vicki
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Chris" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, January 12, 2004 5:34 PM
> Subject: What is you all's opinion?
>
>
> > i'm warning yall.  This is quite darn lengthy, but I promise ya:  It's
> worth
> > the entire read from beginning to end as I do have some pretty deep
> > questions.  Get ready, cause again, I say:  this? is?  deep!
> >
> > how many of you all believe in gardian angels?  Besides you Phil, i
> already
> > know that you do.
> >
> > i've never had a spiritual encounter with one, however, I do know now
more
> > than ever in my life, that i do have a gardian angel.  I just know it,
and
> > know that she is constantly at work.  Granted, she might only be 5 years
> > old, I know well enough that even 5 isn't too young to be one...  If you
> > don't believe me, then explain this to me:
> >
> > Why every time that I see her, which is almost hardly never, is it
mearly
> > impossible for either of us to keep from both crying histerically at the
> > exact same time?  Why is it that even though she's 5, she still has the
> > maturity to call me every single day, and not even miss one.  let's put
it
> > this way, it's extre'ee'ee'eemly dangerous when a child of this age has
> > neumonia yet, even then, when she once did at age 4, about a year ago,
> even
> > then! she made it a point each day, even if it meant her constantly
> coughing
> > etc. she made it a point even then to call me...  She's even at her age
> now,
> > told me that she would die for me...  She said this firstly for the
first
> > time, at age 3.  Now, if you can sit here and tell me, that a 3 year old
> is
> > going to have the branes to know what it means to give and lay down
their
> > life for someone, then I wanna know what child you are talking about and
> > would ya mind me adopting it?  LOL!  only kidding.  Back on a more
serious
> > note though:  This is a really deep topic, and i don't have all the
> answers;
> > I don't think any of us do:  I think angels, may or may not, be
physically
> > formed.  It really depends on your perspective as to how they will end
up
> > being perceived by you as an individual.  And if anyone's raising the
> > question now, well I have a very dear relative, or friend, who I think
> might
> > be a gardian angel, but how do I know...  This is gonna be hard for me
to
> > explain if you haven't already experienced the feeling, andc Phil, maybe
> you
> > can help me reword this a little more simply.  That is my point.  You,
as
> > yourself, won't know!  you won't ever know!  it's your spirit, and your
> soul
> > that will.  Then through those indications, you can then as a person
> > physically, begin to take on the ability of knowing.
> >
> > let me give an example, and I don't think this is gonna really clarify,
> but
> > it might...
> >
> > i thought all along that my cousin jessica was my gardian angel.  Well,
I
> > thought this up until literally last night...  Yes, I still love her, O
my
> > God!  I'd die and willingly rot, and burn...  OK, that's getting
> > inappropriate, so I'll stop that comment, but you get the poihnt.  Yes,
I
> > still would, however, there's a very big difference in love, verses
angel
> > gardianship...  I can't explain it...  it could take under my belief,
> years
> > before you'd ever know, i just find it funny, how the first time I ever
> met
> > this person who now I know it really is, at 9 months old, right then and
> > there, the first time I ever fed her her bottle, and held her, even, for
> > that matter:  I knew, right away, this relationship was faaaaar! more
than
> > just friendship, or love...  i think the thing was though:  I purposely
> > tried to dismiss it, as it sort a scared me...  No? not cause of that...
> No
> > way!  it just did, more in general, i guess cause i new we lived over
1000
> > miles away, and I didn't want to cling to her too much, as I knew if I
> did,
> > it would wreck me...  Well, sure enough, o, it wrecked me all right!
> Nearly
> > physically killed me! to be more precise.  So, my question really well,
> > yeah, one, is, how many of you all believe that this day in time, God
> really
> > does send angels through the physical formities of a child, or an adult,
> and
> > I'm not refering to romance, o she's my angel, I mean more deeply,
> > spiritually.  OK, I'm gonna say something, and if you all choose to
object
> > to it, then, ok.  but I do wanna get one thing very clear:
> >
> > just as you all have the God given right to express your beliefs, I feel
I
> > openly should be able to as well, so if you all disagree, then fine, but
> > let's agree to disagree, and not start up any anamosity.
> >
> > I myself, believe that God is the creator of all people and all things.
> he
> > created people in his own image...  however! there are certain people
who
> > he's specificly created at some time or another who do have God speaking
> > through them...  um...  Gosh this is difficult to explain...  i'm
trying,
> > really I am...  but it's almost on a spiritual level beyond physical
> > comprehention.  Think of it like this:
> >
> > When a human is born, God has a plan for them quite obviously.  Whether
> they
> > choose to follow that plan, is a different thing altogether...  but
> > anyway....  I feel like that God has created angels in the form of
people.
> > No no no no, don't get the wrong idea here.  i'm not saying that they
are
> > part of, or have a part of the trenity, I'm saying that even though they
> are
> > an angel, they don't have a haylo or wings.  yes, I think that there are
> > those types, but they are only seen more rarely...  i think though that
> God,
> > has created certain people to be "gardian angels."  I feel like they may
> > have gosh... what's the word....  not.... rejuvinated... that's no where
> > close to what I'm looking for, nor is carma anywhere close...  I'm not
> that
> > spiritually sick... LOL!  Um...  It's more like...  They... were in
> heaven,
> > I guess is what I'm trying to say, when they really were born first...
> > Then, through means of another birth, after God has maybe told them his
> plan
> > for them, he sends them to earth, as a baby through means of another
> humanly
> > birth.  This goes back to an interesting question that was presented to
my
> > pastor by myself.  Again, this is deep, so bare with me...
> >
> > When we are created:  Were we created and right now, actually, we
already
> > are in heaven, but don't know it...  Don't stop reading, I have my
reason
> of
> > thinking, and you might find it facenating if you read on...  I know
that
> > last comment may offend people, but if you'd let me explain, I don't
think
> > it will in the long run...
> >
> > See, often times, I've heard that when you die, it's like a new
awakening.
> > Well, I really stopped and thought about that for a bit...  What if...
we
> > are already dead, we're already in heaven, yet, are totally asleep there
> and
> > not aware of it...  What is here now on earth that we're experiencing is
> > only a dream.  We think it's reality though as we've never seen reality
> > which is, hince?  Right!  Heaven!  or in some people's case?  Hell!
> >
> > So, really we're already there, we just don't know it...  kind of a
> freakie
> > concept.  Anyway, I could go on with these philisofical questions for
days
> > upon years, but I don't wanna bore yall, so just let me know about this
> > first, and we'll take it from there.
> >
> >
> > Take care.
> >
> >
> > Chris.
> >
>