Joe:
I am not afraid to admit mistakes that I have committed. I must
point that those mistakes have served me to be a better person.
My position is that we are one Gambia and one tribe.
I think you have misquoted Sister Jabou and Mr. Fye. Please
read between the lines. Sister Jabou does not hate you. She just
does not understand why you get upset with the word jola.
If one says that yahya is favoring the jolas, what is wrong with that.
I have time and time again condemn tribalism. It is the worst form
of discrimination. So please dear brother, we may disagree, but we
cannot afford to be indifferent. There are countless jolas who oppose
yahya. It is strange that you get offended when one intimates that
yahya is a tribalist.
As I strength an olive leaf to you as a form of solidarity, I want to
stress that jammeh is a tribalist, and that he favors jolas over other
tribes.
Naphiyo,
Comrade ML Jassey-Conteh
-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Apr 6, 2004 12:53 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Joe Sambou & Tribalism/ Conteh
Jabou, you'll can lob all the lies you can muster, and I shall remain. I
said that Yaya is a tribalist. However, what I will not tolerate from you
or anyone is to come here and brandish all Jolas as tribalist. Thus, the
tribalist in you'll is very obvious. Jabou, you are going to tell Gambians
about this lie and by God you are going to show me out. The good thing is
that you have committed yourselve to have some evidence and as long as you
and others are on line, you'll shall produce this expose. What a disgrace
your have turned to! Now, folks, is it a coincidence that Tapha Fye, Jabou
Joh, Jasseh Conteh, et al would join together in a lie to try to discredit
me? Not at all. Here you have a liar in Tapha, that myself and Yus have
labeled years ago as a Jammeh sympathizer in his unholy alliance with Ebou
Jallow, now is the very person calling me a Yaya informant? This is not the
first time I stopped Tapha in his tribalist crusade and it ain't going to be
the last. As for Jabou, folks here know there is no love lost because I
have challenged her, starting years back when this same Jabou came to
separate Gambians on the basis of their religion. You'll remember when she
announced here that as Muslims in Gambia are not following the Koran,
because they should not befriend Christians, eat their food, visit each
other, etc. You all saw my response to her on the L. Now, that same Jobou
is in a crusade today to attempt to divide Gambians based on Ethnicity. And
like the racist whites in the south, she will tell you that she has friends
who are Jola, or was named after one, etc. Check the L archives, it's there
live. Well folks, judge for yourselves. As for Conteh, he is the
definition of opportunism. This is the same fellow that made so much noise
about Yaya prior to the 2001 elections, only to in the last hour Joined his
mentor, Sheriff Dibba, to get in bed with Yaya. Folks, is that not a fact?
This is also the same fellow that told me as I solicited for other Gambian
Associations in the different states to contribute to the Save The Gambia
Fund, he told me that North Carolina will contribute but want to nominate
their own candidate, different from the coalition. Well folks, did Conteh
not announced his candidacy just the other day? So, after all, he was the
candidate he had in mind. You'll saw my response to his coming out. Is
that the reason this unholy alliance?
So folks, all I tendered are concrete proof about these characters and all
these references are here in the archives. This is what they have reduced
themselves to, all in the the name of pushing their individual tribal
agendas. If you also followed my exchanges regarding this tribal issue, all
reasonable and fair minded persons know that I have said and called Jammeh a
tribalist all along and before they have the nerve to. What is difficult
for folks to understand about that? Why do folks, after hearing me say the
same thing over the years, still come and peddle a blatant lie about my
association with Tijan Ceesay? When Tijan reported Omar Gaye to the FBI,
who made him stop at his tracks? Was it not these same folks and others
that preached caution? I remember Conteh as the very person dissuading me
from reporting all APRC folks that are here in the US illegally (Omar Gaye
was very legal). That, my friends, is also in the achieves. Did I not
tender my opinion of Bala Gaye's association with Yaya? Would someone that
is in bed with Yaya do that? I last sopke with Tijan during that fiasco
with Omar Gaye. As a matter of fact, the insults I heaped on Tijan, I never
heaped it on any, besides Yaya, Ebou, etc. And, folks can contact Tijan for
him to corroborate the lies these despicable persons are attempting to
spread.
Folks, please don't take my word for it, please revisit everything I ever
said on line about Yaya and tell me one instance where you see me deviate
from my stance against him. To Jabou, Elhajj, Conteh, et al, you'll are
slime. The worst form of humans. You'll will debase yourselves just to
destroy a person because I dare stop your agenda. Rest assured, I shall
remain steadfast against this tribalist nonsense that you all want to put on
the heads of all Jolas in the Gambia. You guys are just pathetic and I am
here to say no to your gabbage. Just thrifling.
Chi Jaama
Joe Sambou
>From: Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]>
>Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
><[log in to unmask]>
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Joe Sambou & Tribalism/ Conteh
>Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 09:23:39 EDT
>
>In a message dated 4/6/04 6:09:09 AM Central Daylight Time,
>[log in to unmask] writes:
> >
> > Joe:
> >
> > I don't see anything wrong with Mr. Fye. In fact, I think what he
>evokes
> > should
> > be commended. What is wrong with someone intimating that yahya is using
> > Jolas to be indifferent? Tell me if a single Jola who has been accused
>of
> > corruption ever was arrested.
> >
> > While I commend you for your numerous contributions, I am really concern
> > that
> > you get upset when one mentions the word "Jola." What is wrong with
>that?
> > It
> > is true that a lot of Jolas and other tribes benefited from Jammeh's
> > trabilim.
> >
> > We should conclude that this tribal sentiment has to stop. May be you
> > should be
> > the first person to condemn tribalism. By the way, why did you visit
>Tejan
> > Ceesay at the Gambian Embassy in DC. Should this not be a concern to
> > Gambians?
> > Can we trust you? Are you sleeping with the enemy?
> >
> > Naphiyo,
> > Comrade ML Jassey-Conteh
> >
> > Conteh,
>
>I have always found it interesting that Joe Sambou has taken it upon
>himself
>to keep people from discussing certain issues, Jammeh's Jola tribalism
>being
>foremost among those issues even as he claims to be a champion of the
>people's
>rights. The contradictions are obvious because there is no conflict with
>one
>calling attention to Jammehs' tribalistic tendencies and favouritism and
>for
>the life of me, I cannot see how anyone who opposes this man can at the
>same
>time wage a campaign to silence people from talking about that. I should
>think
>that part of the process of opposing and exposing Jammeh would be to talk
>about
>this issue of tribal favouritism and its' possible repercussions especially
>if
>one is Jola.
>
>I have asked Joe Sambou before to tell us whose side he was on when he has
>waged canpaigns to silence people about certain subjects, and he never
>takes me
>up on those even as he has much to say about everything else. The
>information
>I have is that the visits with Tejan Ceesay at the Gambian embassy in DC
>were
>not restricted to one, but were regular.
>One thing i do know is that Gambians are easy to infiltrate. All one has to
>do is beat your breast and repeat what the people are saying.
>
>Jabou Joh
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Apr 5, 2004 2:55 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: AN APPEAL TO ALL GAMBIA L SUBSCRIBERS
> >
> > Joe,
> > Welcome back! Yaya Jammeh is a tribalist, armed murderer, Armed thief,
>Tony
> > Daabaa and Armuumin. He killed our brothers, children and countinue to
> > harass,
> > Torture, intimidate, exile and punishing a whole nation. Am I now an
> > ignorant and no more a fool? Can you forward the mail I said that the
>first
> > rebuplic harassed me? Where did Ebou Jallow send his mail? Can you
>answer to
> > these questions? Nothing can change my stance that Yaya is a tribalist!
> >
> > Elhajj
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Joe Sambou" <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Monday, April 05, 2004 7:54 PM
> > Subject: Re: AN APPEAL TO ALL GAMBIA L SUBSCRIBERS
> >
> >
> > > Elhajj, you are one ignorant person. Keep foaming, the more you talk,
>the
> > > more folks know who you are. Like I said before, when it comes to
> > > tribalism, you are no different from Yaya with your ignorance. You
>can
> > > carry on with your few backers, but folks would just relegate you for
>what
> > > you are. Keep up the ignorance.
> > >
> > > Chi Jaama
> > >
> > > Joe Sambou
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Elhajj Mustapha Fye <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> > > ><[log in to unmask]>
> > > >To: [log in to unmask]
> > > >Subject: Re: AN APPEAL TO ALL GAMBIA L SUBSCRIBERS
> > > >Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2004 04:59:09 +0200
> > > >
> > > >Mose,
> > > >Yaya and his supporters are up to no good for Gambia. How can you
>believe
> > > >that Jammeh cares less about the Jolas as a tribe? The guy is
>surrounded
> > > >all
> > > >over Kanilai with Jolas ready to act on anything he tells them. Do
>you
> > > >believe these lies his double standard supporters are peddling here?
> > > >Pls.find out properly!
> > > >
> > > >Elhadj.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > >Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 2:39 AM
> > > >Subject: Re: AN APPEAL TO ALL GAMBIA L SUBSCRIBERS
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > JAbou,
> > > > >
> > > > > You are absolutely right that it is important to talk about tribal
> > > >issues,
> > > >not only to avoid a Rwanda type of a situation, but to think that
> > tribalism
> > > >does not shape our politics is utter nonsense. Personally, I do not
>think
> > > >we
> > > >have a tribal animosity like the Hutus and the Tutsi. In fact, I am
> > willing
> > > >to make a stretch that JAmmeh cares less about the Jolas as a tribe.
>This
> > > >is
> > > >not about the Jolas, but moreso about Jammeh the person and what he
>has
> > to
> > > >do to maintain the status quo. He will exploit all avenues of
> > sensitivities
> > > >to maintian power and his political survival. For anyone to thing
>think
> > > >that
> > > >all these have anything to do with the establishment of a Jola empire
>is
> > > >ridiculous. As for the suggestion that moving the "Capital" to
>Kanilai is
> > a
> > > >clear indication of this dream of a Jola empire, is just that. This
>is
> > all
> > > >about Jammeh the egomaniac, and "Jola this or Jola that" has nothing
>to
> > do
> > > >with anything. Although, like any other dishonest political survivor
>he
> > > >will
> > > >conti
> > > > > nue manipulate and will use all the tribes for his own political
>end.
> > > > >
> > > > > Musa Jeng
> > > > > > From: Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > > Date: 2004/04/03 Sat PM 01:10:02 EST
> > > > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > > > > Subject: Re: AN APPEAL TO ALL GAMBIA L SUBSCRIBERS
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In a message dated 4/3/04 11:20:49 AM Central Standard Time,
> > > > > > [log in to unmask] writes:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > "we have two options either to let history take a
> > > > > > > disastrous path or shape the course of history towards
> > > > > > > the right path."
> > > > > > > ."The purpose of history is to learn the lessons of
> > > > > > the past and we let history repeat itself in vice then
> > > > > > we might be very sorry for ourself. We will then let
> > > > > > both ourself and our future children down."
> > > > > > "The Gambia is country of tolerance and is not divided
> > > > > > by tribal demarcations and tribal values or allegiance
> > > > > > have no place in The Gambia."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Brother,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I think we need to be very clear before we label people that are
> > > >commenting
> > > > > > on tribal issues as tribalists.
> > > > > > I am making a comment on the issue of tribalism for the reasons
>you
> > > >have
> > > > > > stated and which I have quoted above. There are some indications
> > that
> > > >Jammeh is
> > > > > > playing a tribal card and the very reason that such things have
>led
> > to
> > > >genocide
> > > > > > and other horrible things in places like Rwanda is because no
>one
> > > >wanted
> > > >to
> > > > > > talk about it. I think we have to discuss these issues so that
>we
> > can
> > > >let it be
> > > > > > known that the people are very much aware of any attempts to
>engage
> > in
> > > >such
> > > > > > things and thereby avoid the possible consequences in our own
> > country.
> > > > > > We as Gambians have a tendency to not talk about things until
>they
> > get
> > > >out of
> > > > > > hand and we cannot affort to do that in this. case.
> > > > > > Rather, I think the issue to how do we get across to Jammeh that
> > > >tribalism
> > > > > > will not be tolerated, as opposed to trying to put a gag order
>on
> > the
> > > >discussion
> > > > > > of tribalism even when there are certain tendencies that will
>cause
> > > >divisions
> > > > > > along tribal lines being implemented by Yaya Jammeh. For
>example,
> > why
> > > >is it
> > > > > > that Gambians have never asked the question why Jammeh moved our
> > > >capital
> > > >to
> > > > > > Kanilai? Is there a plausible explanation for this action?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jabou Joh
> > > > > >
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