i appreciate the vote mike.,,, just joking.

--- Mike <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I think Moore is politicizing in the "documentary."
> I think it is
> propaganda, not a documentary. Having said that, I
> want to say I will
> not be voting for either Bush or Kerry.  Bush has
> lied to us and so has
> Kerry.  I will probably vote for a write-in.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> ken barber
> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2004 10:39 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: hope you had a good day.
>
>    yes, we disagree. i would submit that you, or i,
>  or
>  anyone else can not say, "if it had been me..."
>  because i do not think any of us knows what we'd
>  have
>  done. we'll never be in that position. and i remind
>  you that none of the secret service or security
> knew
>  for sure that air force one was not a target. you
>  given the same information at the time maybe would
>  not
>  have rushed out to get on a targeted aircraft.
>  too much not known at the time for mr moore to know
>  what was the right decision and if he wanted to
> just
>  document then he should have been neutral. he was
>  not
>  and is not to this day just a neutral commentator.
>    he has every right to produce the film. we have
>  every right not to put money in his pocket. i think
>  it
>  is very telling that the terrorist group hesbolla
>  volunteered to help him get his film on more
> screens
>  in the middle east. i think it speaks volumns.
>
>  since we are politicing, i noticed with intrest
> that
>  john kerry made a statement that he believed life
>  started at conception and not a peep from NOW. more
>  interesting stuff being said and done in the
>  heartland
>  that makes inquiring minds want to know.
>
>  hang in mag. i know you have your hands full with
>  your
>  advocacy position there.
>    my hands are swollen tonight so i am getting off.
>
> >  --- Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > If it had been me, I would have excused myself
> as
> > > soon as I was told.
> > >
> > > Oh well, Michael Moore doesn't do anything the
> > bush
> > > media machine hasn't
> > > done. but obviously we will need to agree to
> > > disagree.
> > >
> > > Tamar Magenta Raine
> > > [log in to unmask]
> > >
> > > IM; tamarmag48
> > > Oakland Mayor's Commission on People with
> > > disabilities
> > >
> > >
> > > > [Original Message]
> > > > From: Kathy <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > Date: 7/5/2004 4:00:52 PM
> > > > Subject: Fwd: Re: hope you had a good day.
> > > >
> > > > I saw the film, and while I don't like Bush
> and
> > > will not be voting for
> > > him, I
> > > > didn't like the film.  I thought it was
> terribly
> > > one-sided and unfair.
> > > The
> > > > connection he makes between the Bushes and the
> > > Saudi royal family is
> > > tenuous
> > > > at best, and while his reaction to the news of
> > > 9-11 wasn't immediate, I
> > > can
> > > > see myself reacting the same way - trying to
> > > comprehend just what had
> > > > happened, thoughts racing through my head,
> while
> > > keeping on with what I
> > > had
> > > > been doing.
> > > >
> > > > Kat
> > > >
> > > > ----------  Forwarded Message  ----------
> > > >
> > > > Subject: Re: hope you had a good day.
> > > > Date: Monday 05 July 2004 6:30 pm
> > > > From: Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > >
> > > > Ken,
> > > > I do think that at least half of it is true.
> You
> > > will need to see the film
> > > > for yourself and judge for yourself.  It was
> > scary
> > > to watch him be told
> > > > about the crashes at the world trade center,
> he
> > > did absolutely nothing for
> > > > 8 minutes, there was no reaction, no anything,
> > he
> > > just went ahead with the
> > > > plan to read to the first graders.  It is
> heart
> > > wrenching to see and hear
> > > > mothers on both continents weeping for their
> > sons,
> > > it is heart rending
> > > when
> > > > soldiers say that each time you kill somebody
> a
> > > piece of your own soul
> > > dies
> > > > with the victim. It is telling that not one
> > > congress person would sign
> > > > their own kids up for military service. It is
> > hair
> > > raising that 15 members
> > > > of bin laden's family were allowed to leave
> the
> > > USA.
> > > >
> > > > Mag
> > > >
> > > > Tamar Magenta Raine
> > > > [log in to unmask]
> > > >
> > > > IM; tamarmag48
> > > > Oakland Mayor's Commission on People with
> > > disabilities
> > > >
> > > > > [Original Message]
> > > > > From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > Date: 7/5/2004 2:59:41 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: hope you had a good day.
> > > > >
> > > > > well, yes, mag. if half of it were true,
> even
> > i
> > > would
> > > > > vote against bush.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Tamar Raine <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > I went to eat barbecue at my dad's
> > retirement
> > > home.
> > > > > > Pretty nice. Then I
> > > > > > went to see Fahrenheit 9/11. very good
> > > documentary.
> > > > > > I won't go into details
> > > > > > but I hope everybody see it. If even half
> of
> > > it is
> > > > > > true, we've got to get
> > > > > > rid of Bush and his cronies.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > (mag, getting off her soapbox!)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Tamar Magenta Raine
> > > > > > [log in to unmask]
> > > > > >
> > > > > > IM; tamarmag48
> > > > > > Oakland Mayor's Commission on People with
> > > > > > disabilities
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > [Original Message]
> > > > > > > From: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > > > Date: 7/5/2004 1:20:51 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: hope you had a good day.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Austin's has received 20" in June. I
> think
> > > the
> > > > > >
> > > > > > annual average is around
>
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