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Tue, 6 May 2003 15:50:26 -0700
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the ways the civil service laws are written leaves
very little that a union can be good for.
--- Kat <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I belonged to an union a long time ago (when I first
> worked for the government), and it was a waste of my
> time and money. All they wanted was my $$ for dues;
> they did little or nothing for the federal workers.
>
> As a whole, unions are money-grabbers and have very
> little bargaining power now.  They were useful back
> in the early part of this century, when working
> conditions were horrible, but now that OSHA and the
> DOL have jurisdiction over workplaces and
> conditions, the need for unions to oversee working
> conditions and terms have largely disapated.
> They're now essentially interest groups and
> lobbyists.
>
> Kat
>
> -------Original Message-------
> From: Trisha Cummings <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: 05/06/03 12:09 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: civil war, was re. earthquake
>
> >
> > HI Mag,
>
>     Unions have unfortunely gone a bit corrupt. I
> think they where very
> necessary at one time but I an not convinced of
> their value now. They seem
> to add to beauracy and wasting time. Ideally there
> would be an enitity
> that
> had no stake in what was happening - Unions have
> become business in their
> own right - so a self interest factor end up in
> their. On the other hand -
> how much do I know - not being union?
>
>
> Trisha
>
>
> > I have been pro-union most of my life. For
> struggling farmworkers, for
> > coal
> > miners, wherever human beings have to struggle
> with exploitation. But
> > recently, my view has been changed somewhat.  In
> my work as a
> commissioner
> > and dealing with ways to get the sidewalks
> repaired quicker, it has been
> > said
> > that the unions got in the way of the city using
> parolees who were in
> > training programs, because the work would not be
> done by union members.
> > Argh...
> >
> > Mag
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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> > I am available to do writing, editing, reporting,
> designing jobs,
> > including
> > business cards, etc. I am also a disability rights
> activist.
> >
>
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> >


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