Mr. Jeng:
You have a right to not trust me. History will tell. I don't know you, but I
respect your position. This is politics. I should get use to it.
Naphiyo,
Comrade ML Jassey-Conteh
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Sent: Apr 6, 2004 2:36 PM
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Subject: Re: Joe Sambou & Tribalism/ Conteh/Soffie
Gentlemen,
It is sad that someone who over the years has done so much to the struggle, but people are still willing because of personal beef, to come up with such lies. If we are going to be honest with our struggle to create democracy in the Gambia, we cannot allow vindictiveness to take over our souls. I hate to single out JAbou and Elhadj, but all they have is a beef with Joe, and these things do happen. To manifacture lies to try to discredit a committed person like Joe is downright unfair to him, and to what we are trying to do. As for Jasseh Conteh......., I hate to get personal, people will just have to make their own judement about you.I for one do not trust you at all base on your actions on the lsitserve over the years.
Thanks
Musa Jeng
>
> From: Joe Sambou <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: 2004/04/06 Tue PM 01:55:02 EDT
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Joe Sambou & Tribalism/ Conteh/Soffie
>
> Soffie, Jabou is going to tender proof of this venom she spitted. And she
> says she is a Muslim. Chei Jabou? I find you to be a hypocrit from this
> day on and I suggest that you kneel down and beg for forgiveness from your
> God, for you have literally attempted to murderd your fellow being because
> of spite. But, this fellow here is not a push over and I'll run you over
> before you do me. You will someday publicly apologize to me in this same
> public forum that you came to attempt to assasinate me. I want any APRC
> person to come say that I ever called them or spoke with them. Any. l have
> not talked to Tijan Ceesay but twice since his association with Yaya. The
> first was when a mutual friend informed me of Tijan working at the Embassy.
> Essa Sey was the Ambassador at the time. I came to this very forum and
> blasted him for being an opportunist and serving tea to Essa. After Essa's
> termination, he told me how Tijan was all over him thinking that he Essa was
> spreading that message. Now, Essa is right here on line. Ask him if he did
> not contact me after he was fired? The second was during the Omar Gaye saga
> with Tijan Ceesay and again, all on this forum heard and saw my stance and
> that was the last time I spoke with Tijan. You see Jabou, my conscience is
> clear, thus I can speak on things freely with no baggage. But at the end of
> the day, you will tell Gambians about this big lie of yours. Jabou, if you
> can talk about Allah the way you do here and come to lie this blatant, I
> wonder what else you could do to a humanbeing. To all that entertain Jabou
> here, religiously, I say to you, you are dealing with a very vindictive
> person and a hypocrit. You are dealing with a person that will go to any
> lengths to lie big time about any that she cannot control. They gheeza is a
> control freak and she knows that I am one fellow that does not entertain her
> craziness. Look at her bedfellows in this lie, they constantly are stroking
> each other's ego and will because they are all drunk with malice. Besides,
> if they succeed in this filth they are creating in a tribal war in Gambia,
> yours and mine are going to be the victims. I thought I encountered slime
> in my life, but this cabal redefined slime to a whole new level. A
> grandmother and a liar. Most folks would shape their lives to age
> gracefully, but not this gheezer. However, I am here to stay, so bring it
> on. Just pathethic and shameful.
>
> Folks, I hate to clutter your mails with this filth, but I am not going to
> let this gheeza or anyone spread this filth here about me. Jabou, you
> committed yourself, so Gambians are expecting the dirt you have on Joe. You
> are not going to run away with this one. So, out with it.
>
> Chi jaama
>
> Joe Sambou
>
>
> >From: "Ceesay, Soffie" <[log in to unmask]>
> >Reply-To: The Gambia and related-issues mailing list
> ><[log in to unmask]>
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Joe Sambou & Tribalism/ Conteh/Soffie
> >Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 09:13:24 -0700
> >
> >Sister Jabou, thank you. I agree with you. Those aspects of 'Maslaha'
> >which are detrimental to our lives and livelihood, like many of our other
> >harmful traditions, has to be done away with by pre-emption. My concern is
> >when we start to label each other with that which we are not, because of
> >how we might have come across on this medium, our effectiveness in our
> >fight against the tyranny becomes weakened. Use of tribe for personal gain
> >is what's happening, this is Yaya's game and Gambia's problem. Unfettered
> >sycophancy, which has side-lined tribe, is Gambia's problem. It becomes
> >our problem when we do not see it for what it is being used for, and
> >counter that vigorously by foiling his sinister plan. How do we do that -
> >Transforming how we think and how others who make thoughtless comments
> >think, through civil dialogue; questionning ourselves about our "forgna
> >dehs" and make attempts
> >to "hamm" and ask when we do not; and come together to forge the necessary
> >plan to help Gambia. It is wrong and dangerous to single out the Jolas to
> >vent our anger and frustrations at, for the mis-deeds of a leech who after
> >sucking you dry, hand you over to be fried. I am asking that for this
> >fight, let us join hands, hearts, and minds. Let us deal with the issue of
> >tribalism in the country on it's own.
> >
> >Soffie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Jabou Joh [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> >Sent: Tuesday, April 06, 2004 10:45 AM
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Joe Sambou & Tribalism/ Conteh/Soffie
> >
> >
> >Soffie,
> >
> >As always, I appreciate your imput and thanks.
> >However sister, if we off-handedly label this issue as just part of the
> >Jammeh problem without bringing it into the open so that we can pre-empt
> >any larger
> >problems that will arise later when it is too late, I think we wil lhave
> >regrets only after things have gotten out of hand. The fact that there is
> >favouritism in the allocation of high ranking positions in the army as well
> >as even
> >the availability of basic services like electricity and the cost of rice
> >which
> >is a basic Gambian staple tells me that this issue is potentially explosive
> >unless and until we talk about it openly, and in so doing, those who have
> >interest in fermenting this sinister plan will know that the people are
> >aware. That
> >simple fact itself can be a deterrent. We Gambians are used to adopting the
> >least confrontational mode and simplifying things to our own detriment.
> >We cannot afford to leave any problematic area that this regime has helped
> >to
> >create.
> >Diplomacy cannot change the feelings of hostility that these actions can
> >brew
> >on the local level, and these seemingly minor details have led to
> >hostilities
> >and became much larger problems elsewhere. Only full exposure of the
> >problem
> >can be the deterrent.
> >
> >Jabou Joh
> >
> >In a message dated 4/6/04 9:20:02 AM Central Daylight Time,
> >[log in to unmask] writes:
> >
> >
> > > Brothers and sisters -
> > >
> > > The grey on my head is multiplying (no kidding), thanks to the daily
> >grind
> > > of life in the US and the struggle we have to wage for Gambia's
> >liberation.
> > > And, thanks also to dialogue that has only helped to fan the flames of
> > > mis-understanding between those of us who are fighting the same fight.
> >I hate to go
> > > against what my elders say and so I apologize before hand but, what
> >pertains
> > > in the Gambia is not a JOLA problem, but Gambia's problem. That Yaya is
> >a
> > > tribalist we all agree on. A tribalist for whom and against whom, very
> >hard
> > > for me to say and I will dis-agree with anyone who singles out anyone
> >tribe.
> > > The Jola's are as much at the receiving end of his tyranny as everyone
> >else.
> > > Those who've helped prop him up come from every strata of Gambian
> >society
> > > and to allow ourselves to miss this point sends shivers up my spine.
> > >
> > > At our last demonstration in New York, when reporter Ebou Waggeh asked a
> > > question (I do not recall what it was), this lady pushed forward and
> >began to
> > > spew spittle about the Jolas this and the Jolas that. I was frightened
> >-
> > > frightened because she was speaking from her heart and frightened that
> >she has
> > > allowed herself to be manipulated into segmenting our society by the
> >shenanigans
> > > of a loony. If I were to turn around and ask her what any Jola has done
> >to
> > > her or her family before Jammeh or now, she would have pointed only to
> > > Jammeh. My response to that comment, to Waggeh, was this - Yaya was
> >born a Jola
> > > and that is as far as he can claim. Those who benefited from and
> >supported him
> > > run the tribal gamut.
> > >
> > > Some of us are lucky and can claim to be a bonafide Wollof, Mandinka,
> >Jola,
> > > Sarahuleh, Manjaago, or whatever. So what? At the end of the day, what
> >does
> > > that bring you? I will suggest that many Gambians are like me who
> >cannot
> > > claim to be a bonafide anytribe even if I grew up speaking only Wollof.
> >I will
> > > also suggest that it is people in our families and tribes who will put
> >the
> > > screws to you without a second thought and Yaya is no different. For
> > > political expediency, he uses whatever he can and if tribalism is
> >readily available
> > > and he's proved that it can polarize the opposition, why not use it. My
> > > sincerest apologies to all as well as my regards. I now go back to the
> >plantation
> > > grind.
> > >
> > > Soffie Ceesay
> > > A Gambian
> > >
> > >
> >
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