Hello Jim.
Respectfully. It would really be appreciated if no more
comments under “Law penalizes the able?” would be
posted. As you are already aware Jim, I am 100%
disabled and need to have certain knowledge to be able
to function in life.
For that reason, and since early this morning I’ve been
waiting for additional and relevant information about,
and if I may quote Richard “…technology or providing the
crucial electronic tools necessary for individuals with
disabilities to compete effectively in the 21st
century”, to be posted to the board. I understand that
by not remembering the past, we might be condemned to
have to relive the evils of yesteryear, but “reliving
the past” on this board of how politics brought about
the ADA and gave us disabled rights and our jobs, is too
overwhelming for me. And besides, I really would like to
hear more about the “earplugs” and like devices for
incorporation into my report.
So please restrain yourself and refrain about discussing
the condition and state of affairs of Canadian teeth.
Thank you and Highest Regards,
Rudy
> It is like pulling teeth.
>
> In Ontario, many think that the ODA (Ontarians with Disabilities Act) is
> the Ontario Dental Association!
>
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ruth Burchell <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 1:01 PM
> Subject: Re: Law penalizes the able?
>
>
> | But what about those other disabled person's "basic
> | needs" such as me?
> |
> | There is a reason why the theme of the United Nations
> | charter focusses on this very subject? I am NOT able
> | to leave my house often so as to hold a prestigious
> | position as Richard and get daily social input. I
> | rely on these e-mails for information. I too need to
> | be accommodated and informed.
> |
> | Everyone should play a part in upholding our disabled
> | rights, but some don't. But this is probably why we
> | are tottering on losing ground with the ADA because
> | there are a few who feel too comfortable in their jobs
> | and don't further the cause, as they may already have
> | what they need and want.
> |
> | We should have really gone further during the ten
> | years that the ADA has existed. As a matter of fact
> | did anyone ever realize why the majority of people
> | doesn't know what ADA stands for. They think ADA
> | means American Dental Association or American
> | Democratic Association, etc.
> |
> | My suggesion for those who are not interested, that
> | any e-mail in the string of: "Law penalizes the
> | able?" gets promptly deleted without opening the
> | message.
> |
> | Ruth
> |
> | ----------------
> |
> | --- Ron Stewart <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> | > I would agree, but lets try to keep the info
> | > apolitical as much as possible.
> | >
> | > Ron Stewart
> | >
> | > -----Original Message-----
> | > From: Rudy Caris [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> | > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 12:35 PM
> | > To: [log in to unmask]
> | > Subject: Re: Law penalizes the able?
> | >
> | >
> | > Funny you should mention that. Someone just brought
> | > up
> | > that very point and question to me before you posted
> | > David. Yes, information and technology coupled
> | > together
> | > on this board should count.
> | >
> | > Rudy
> | > .
> | > .
> | > .
> | > > what about information, does that count?
> | > >
> | > > ----- Original Message -----
> | > > From: "Richard Jones" <[log in to unmask]>
> | > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> | > > Sent: January 12, 2001 2:37 PM
> | > > Subject: Re: Law penalizes the able?
> | > >
> | > >
> | > > The name of this organization is EASI, "Equal
> | > Access to Software and
> | > > Information." I am open to any point of view
> | > concerning access to
> | > > software
> | > > and information. However, EASI is filling up
> | > each day with email
> | > > that has
> | > > nothing to do with technology or providing the
> | > crucial electronic
> | > > tools
> | > > necessary for individuals with disabilities to
> | > compete effectively in
> | > > the
> | > > 21st century. If you want to relive the past, do
> | > it on your own
> | > > time.
> | > >
> | > > Richard Jones
> | > > Assistant Director
> | > > Disability Resources for Students
> | > > Arizona State University, Main
> | > > 480-965-1234
> | > >
> | > > -----Original Message-----
> | > > From: Rudy Caris [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> | > > Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 12:05 PM
> | > > To: [log in to unmask]
> | > > Subject: Re: Law penalizes the able?
> | > >
> | > > No doubt, and I understand the point of the
> | > argument and
> | > > what is being said.
> | > >
> | > > The arena where our battles should be fought
> | > however,
> | > > has a whole new set of rules, and is not given to
> | > > emotional pleadings, grandstanding, or such
> | > things.
> | > >
> | > > I picked one fight that took seven years to
> | > conclude.
> | > > As a result, many disabled today are enjoying some
> | > of
> | > > their rights they would otherwise not have had.
> | > >
> | > > Conversely, there have been issues where I chose
> | > NOT to
> | > > rattle the cages of the powers that are.
> | > >
> | > > The sympathetic vote is a powerful ally that
> | > should not
> | > > be abused or overused as the case might be.
> | > >
> | > > Indulging in that practice only serves to
> | > desensitize
> | > > our "friends" who can help us in our battles.
> | > Which
> | > > indeed they are.
> | > >
> | > > Rudy
> | > > .
> | > > .
> | > > .
> | > > > Yes, you do have to pick your fights. Selma
> | > Alabama was chosen for a
> | > > reason
> | > > > I do believe, as was Montgomery. I don't want to
> | > get this wrong
> | > > though,
> | > > and
> | > > > disappoint my former professor (right Norm). On
> | > the other hand
> | > > though, you
> | > > > can't be so quiet as to have the other side
> | > nickel and dime you to
> | > > death.
> | > > > Can't wine about everything. But there does come
> | > a time when some
> | > > one can
> | > > > take only so much.
> | > > >
> | > > > Randy
> | > > >
> | > > > "Practice means nothing. Games mean everything."
> | > > > -- Thurmond Moore
> | > > > ----- Original Message -----
> | > > > From: David Poehlman <[log in to unmask]>
> | > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> | > > > Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2001 4:21 PM
> | > > > Subject: Re: Law penalizes the able?
> | > > >
> | > > >
> | > > > > yes, it makes a difference. the disabled is a
> | > bit different than
> | > > > > either of those you describe. for one thing,
> | > we don't have the
> | > > > > choices that any of them did due to functional
> | > limitations.
> | > > > >
> | > > > > This is the 21st century the last I looked.
> | > The backlash against
> | > > us
> | > > > > over stuff like this can be more detramental
> | > than the present
> | > > reality.
> | > > > > if you have 100 guood cases, the one bad one
> | > that you have will
> | > > wipe
> | > > > > all the good of them away.
> | > > > >
> | > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> | > > > > From: "Rick Sinclair" <[log in to unmask]>
> | > > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> | > > > > Sent: January 11, 2001 4:03 PM
> | > > > > Subject: Re: Law penalizes the able?
> | > > > >
> | > > > >
> | > > > > Rudy,
> | > > > >
> | > > > > On the other hand, squeaky wheels get the
> | > grease. Neither the
> | > > black
> | > > > > movement, nor the womens' movement, had much
> | > success until they
> | > > > > started
> | > > > > raising an unholy ruckus that got media
> | > attention. The womens'
> | > > > > movement
> | > > > > was a phenomenal result, actually changing the
> | > perspective of
> | > > > > virtually
> | > > > > all of society, but they had to burn their
> | > bras to do it. (Never
> | > > could
> | > > > > figure why that made a difference, but it
> | > apparently did!) When
> | > > we
> | > > > > give
> | > > > > an inch, we lose a mile.
> | > > > >
> | > > > > I know what you mean, and I don't really
> | > disagree with strategic
> | > > > > planning, but sometimes being "totally
> | > unreasonable" is what make
> | > > the
> | > > > > difference. If nothing changes, nothing
> | > changes.
> | > > > >
> | > > > > Rick
> | > > > >
> | > > > >
> | > > > > Rudy Caris wrote:
> | > > > > >
> | > > > > > You are absolutely correct Rick.
> | > > > > >
> | > > > > > But let's go about asserting our rights with
> | > a measure
> | > > > > > of reason, and not stand on all of our
> | > rights, all of
> | > > > > > the time: Unless of course we are sure that
> | > we will win
> | > > > > > and advance the cause for all of us. o.k?
> | > > > > >
> | > > > > > Lost ground is harder to regain.
> | > > > > >
> | > > > > > Rudy
> | > > > > > .
> | > > > > > .
> | >
> | === message truncated ===
> |
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