>Actually, I'm not really fully convinced that grains are inherently bad for
>us...

Cordain's paper explains that very well, as does Ray's book.  Foriegn
proteins bring with them specific problems of their own right; the carbs
provide so-called "empty calories" which, by themselves, leave them verboten
for many, myself included.  The cradle of civilization --Egypt-- is where
grains played a huge role in the economy, the diet and society's collective
health.  This is where diabetes was first diagnosed.  No fuzzy math on this
one!

Dori Zook
Denver, CO

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