I am so troubled at the loss of our basic liberties due to the habeas corpus
doctrine it's keeping me awake at times.  I think this is one of the things
that will make it harder for Bush to win his next election.  We Americans
don't fully understand what we've lost in the name of homeland security.

Kat

----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Sands" <[log in to unmask]>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.c-palsy
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: Ironies


> Whoa.
>
> First of all, let's be fair about what Bill Clinton did--he lied about an
> affair.  How many men have done jail time for that?  Second, let's be fair
> about what Hillary Clinton has done--she has run campaigns the way
> politicians have been running them in this country for years and years.
>
> What George W. Bush has done to the office of President and to the
> Constitution of this country (particularly to the doctrine of habeus
corpus)
> is far more troubling to me.
>
> Scott
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: ken barber <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 12:34 PM
> Subject: Re: Ironies
>
>
> > margret thacher was a powerful woman. she did not
> > switch her opinions with every poll or every focus
> > group that met. i might add that she did not get her
> > power from a man she married. she did not run
> > campaigns with hand picked news personnel that would
> > only ask questions that she wanted ask. mrs clinton
> > has never been in a public forum that she has not
> > control who would be there.
> >   powerful? not my definition of powerful. hate, no
> > lets usethe right word, despise is the word and
> > whatthese two did to the office of the president and
> > to the constitution of this country is the reason that
> > i dispise both of them.
> >   questioned answered.
> >
> > --- "K. Salkin" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > Now com'on guys.  Why do you hate her so much?
> > > She's a powerful woman but I
> > > fail to see where she's so evil.  If you're thinking
> > > Whitewater remember
> > > that her involvement was never proved in that case.
> > > I've seen far more
> > > evidence of misuse in power by men and no one bats
> > > an eye.
> > >
> > > I'm beginning to think that men fear powerful women.
> > > ;-)
> > >
> > > Kat
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "ken barber" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Newsgroups: bit.listserv.c-palsy
> > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2003 3:07 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Ironies
> > >
> > >
> > > > well, mag, i have been watching politics since i
> > > was
> > > > in middle school. back then i did not identify
> > > with
> > > > either party. i can say that nobody in my time has
> > > > struck me as being even a close 2nd to hillary
> > > > clinton.
> > > >
> > > > --- Magenta Raine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > > > > In a message dated 6/7/03 8:24:16 PM Pacific
> > > > > Daylight Time,
> > > > > [log in to unmask] writes:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Which 'baby Bush' are you referring to, Mag?
> > > > > There are two out there!
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > the one in 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. ;-<
> > > > >
> > > > > Mag
> > > > >
> > > >
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