This is a good question people can have a very interesting discussion
on, whether or not either Saddam or Bin Linton are dead or alive.  I
myself am 25 (26 on Thursday), I haven't lived a whole lot of life yet,
so my ideas and viewpoints are still taking shape.  However, Bush has
taken us to two wars within roughly 18 months, and says we have
accomplished somethings (which maybe so), but I find it hard to believe
it didn't take longer.  I'm saying this because I'm sure we know that
their version of Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood is teaching kids how to blow
buildings and people up the most effective ways.  It doesn't stop with
two guys dead and a few hundred in jail, like Bush wants us to believe.
I also find it highly unlikely we have successfully killed two guys with
unlimited resources (that's wishful thinking not a reality).

Thanks,
Anthony

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Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 5:55 AM
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Subject: Re: WMD'S DOES IT MATTER

Well, not finding evidence of WMD does matter in the scheme of things as
it
undermines Bush's and Blair's credibility, and rather negates the
justification for war against Iraq.

As for life now vs. life under Saddam, that may be true as far as we're
concerned, but if they don't think life is any better under us than
under
Saddam, things will never settle down and there will still be a lot of
problems with Iraq.  It's not going to be a easy peace, that's for sure.
Perceptions are just as important as reality when dealing with people,
and
we Americans have reputations of being bullies.  We are the invaders
that
are not welcome in a Islamic nation.

I agree Saddam was (or is, if he's alive) evil, and I think once we were
over there, it was a waste of energy and time to protest, but now that
it's
over, we need to let Bush and Blair know our displeasure by voting them
out
of office.   I certainly plan to campaign against Bush.

My main reasons for not supporting Bush are more economic than anything
else, and I think the tax cuts he pushed through Congress is a big
mistake.
People aren't spending money not because taxes are too much; they're not
spending money because they've lost confidence in the economy and the
President's ability to make things better.  That is one reason I was so
against us going to Iraq - it took billions of dollars from the US, away
from social welfare programs where they are badly needed as well as
educational programs.  Schools are hurting so badly that according to an
article I read earlier this week, parents are donating blood for money
to
raise funds for schools.  Is this what this country has come to?  Guns
before butter?

I am fiscally conservative and I think there are a lot of people on
welfare
who don't belong there. However I am realistic enough to realise there
are
people who never will work because they can't.  What will happen to them
when the safety nets fail?  I worry about them.

If we can't fix the mess the Social Security program is in and help the
elderly better, we're going to lose a lot of them, too.  I know they're
better off now as a rule, but now that the stock market has lowered the
values of portfolios, there are a lot of folks out there whose 401ks,
IRAs,
etc. have shrunk tremendously and are close to retirement age.  What
will
happen to them?

Sure, lower taxes are nice for the very rich, but for most of us, it's a
mistake in my opinion. I feel Bush is really out of touch with
Americans.

Kat




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From: "ken barber" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 11:31 PM
Subject: WMD'S DOES IT MATTER


> DERI, you and i will never see eye to eye on this one.
> i would like to ask a question. there is no right
> answer since it is a "what do you think?" question.
>
> regardless of the WMD's question, do you think the
> average Iraqi is better off now than they were before
> the invasion? it is certainly still not a bed of roses
> there.
>
> oh a second one. how is this playing for Blair over
> there. i am not able to pick up the BBC. sure wish i
> could.
>
> the first question is for every one. if you get BBC
> anyone can answer the 2nd one for me too.
>
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