I'm just not as discouraged as you appear to be, and I'm more
confidient in "representative democracy" than you are.

-jc

On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 08:11  AM, Jim Hicks wrote:

> Popular vote etc. I think that is why there is a senate with two reps
> from each state no matter how large or small the population.
> I think the main problem is are we living in a democracy or a
> capitolacracy?
> It seems to me democracy = capitol in this country and the more
> capitol the more democracy.
> jh
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: John Callan
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2003 8:37 AM
> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution
>
> Jim,
>
> Two seperate issues. Voting irregularities should be investigated and
> if the evidence supports the charge, the perpetrators should be
> charged. Even Jeb deserves due process, (barely and only to protect my
> right to due process).
>
> Popular vote? That's a great idea. If you are from Texas, Florida,
> California or New York. No problem for you, you'll have all them
> politicians listening to your polls and visiting every nook and crany
> of your steaming cities. And so damned efficient too! Think of the
> cost savings. Don't have to pay any attention to them folks out in the
> wilderness. Hell! We could have a National Real Estate Tax...you guys
> in the cities would like that! And your farmers with their cute little
> 200 acre plots would be competitive again! You've got the house of
> representatives...enough is enough!
>
> Disenfranchisement is a bad idea, doesn't matter where it happens. The
> popular vote eliminates any reason for politicians to know what is
> going on outside of a dozen most populated states. Things like that
> cause problems.
>
> -jc
>
>
> On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 05:02 AM, Jim Hicks wrote:
>
> It would help if you were able to add better than I can spell. I vote
> in NY and the State was carried by the Dem dummy. In any case Demdumb
> won the pop vote, he just lost in Fla where blacks were purged from
> the voting reg six months before the election and on election day in
> many black counties there were road blocks leading to the polls (plus
> all of the other voting eregularities which the supreams said that
> just this one time we're going to chose)and in any case the "Southern
> Stradegy" has worked very well and is very alive in the grand ole > sout.
> jh
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Ralph Walter
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:55 PM
> Subject: Re: Iraq response & Constitution
>
> In a message dated 2/19/2003 6:15:24 PM Eastern Standard Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
>
> Actually, I hate them all except maybe Nader. I'm a reg Dummy much to
> my shame.
>
>
>
> What you SHOULD be ashamed of is supporting Nader and thereby electing
> Dubya.
>
> Ralph
>