i have herad it say that we have about half in jail
or dead. i do not know on what they base a statement
like that. i thought the number of cells of these
people was unknown. if unknown how do you get to know
you have half?
  i do not think it matters if bin laden is dead or
not. if he is dead someone else will take his place.
  lack of money to pull off these capers will be the
most effective action next to taking away their safe
havens.

--- Anthony Arnold <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> This is a good question people can have a very
> interesting discussion
> on, whether or not either Saddam or Bin Linton are
> dead or alive.  I
> myself am 25 (26 on Thursday), I haven't lived a
> whole lot of life yet,
> so my ideas and viewpoints are still taking shape.
> However, Bush has
> taken us to two wars within roughly 18 months, and
> says we have
> accomplished somethings (which maybe so), but I find
> it hard to believe
> it didn't take longer.  I'm saying this because I'm
> sure we know that
> their version of Mr. Rogers' Neighborhood is
> teaching kids how to blow
> buildings and people up the most effective ways.  It
> doesn't stop with
> two guys dead and a few hundred in jail, like Bush
> wants us to believe.
> I also find it highly unlikely we have successfully
> killed two guys with
> unlimited resources (that's wishful thinking not a
> reality).
>
> Thanks,
> Anthony
>
> Visit me at http://www.anthonyarnold.net/
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: St. John's University Cerebral Palsy List
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> K. Salkin
> Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 5:55 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: WMD'S DOES IT MATTER
>
> Well, not finding evidence of WMD does matter in the
> scheme of things as
> it
> undermines Bush's and Blair's credibility, and
> rather negates the
> justification for war against Iraq.
>
> As for life now vs. life under Saddam, that may be
> true as far as we're
> concerned, but if they don't think life is any
> better under us than
> under
> Saddam, things will never settle down and there will
> still be a lot of
> problems with Iraq.  It's not going to be a easy
> peace, that's for sure.
> Perceptions are just as important as reality when
> dealing with people,
> and
> we Americans have reputations of being bullies.  We
> are the invaders
> that
> are not welcome in a Islamic nation.
>
> I agree Saddam was (or is, if he's alive) evil, and
> I think once we were
> over there, it was a waste of energy and time to
> protest, but now that
> it's
> over, we need to let Bush and Blair know our
> displeasure by voting them
> out
> of office.   I certainly plan to campaign against
> Bush.
>
> My main reasons for not supporting Bush are more
> economic than anything
> else, and I think the tax cuts he pushed through
> Congress is a big
> mistake.
> People aren't spending money not because taxes are
> too much; they're not
> spending money because they've lost confidence in
> the economy and the
> President's ability to make things better.  That is
> one reason I was so
> against us going to Iraq - it took billions of
> dollars from the US, away
> from social welfare programs where they are badly
> needed as well as
> educational programs.  Schools are hurting so badly
> that according to an
> article I read earlier this week, parents are
> donating blood for money
> to
> raise funds for schools.  Is this what this country
> has come to?  Guns
> before butter?
>
> I am fiscally conservative and I think there are a
> lot of people on
> welfare
> who don't belong there. However I am realistic
> enough to realise there
> are
> people who never will work because they can't.  What
> will happen to them
> when the safety nets fail?  I worry about them.
>
> If we can't fix the mess the Social Security program
> is in and help the
> elderly better, we're going to lose a lot of them,
> too.  I know they're
> better off now as a rule, but now that the stock
> market has lowered the
> values of portfolios, there are a lot of folks out
> there whose 401ks,
> IRAs,
> etc. have shrunk tremendously and are close to
> retirement age.  What
> will
> happen to them?
>
> Sure, lower taxes are nice for the very rich, but
> for most of us, it's a
> mistake in my opinion. I feel Bush is really out of
> touch with
> Americans.
>
> Kat
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ken barber" <[log in to unmask]>
> Newsgroups: bit.listserv.c-palsy
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2003 11:31 PM
> Subject: WMD'S DOES IT MATTER
>
>
> > DERI, you and i will never see eye to eye on this
> one.
> > i would like to ask a question. there is no right
> > answer since it is a "what do you think?"
> question.
> >
> > regardless of the WMD's question, do you think the
> > average Iraqi is better off now than they were
> before
> > the invasion? it is certainly still not a bed of
> roses
> > there.
> >
> > oh a second one. how is this playing for Blair
> over
> > there. i am not able to pick up the BBC. sure wish
> i
> > could.
> >
> > the first question is for every one. if you get
> BBC
> > anyone can answer the 2nd one for me too.
> >
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