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Debbie Ball <[log in to unmask]>
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Hello all

I said earlier Red  Lobster and Olive Garden.  W hich impressed me when I
went to both these places with my cane and they brought them over to me.
Prior to that I had no idea that any places carried braille menus.

Debbie

iginal Message -----
From: "Sun Sounds of Arizona" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 3:34 PM
Subject: Re: Fw: Restaurant Praised For Its Braille Menus


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> It has been my experience in a lot of places that the staff is ill
informed
> about the availability of Braille.  I have too often had to challenge the
> hostess who says "uh, we don't have anything like that."  Since I know
> better, I say, could you ask your manager.  Usually, they contritely come
> back with a Braille menu.  If we keep asking though, it will get better.
>
> At 11:39 AM 8/12/03 -0700, Terri Hedgpeth wrote:
>
> >I recently went to an Outback Steakhouse in Mesa and asked for a Braille
> >menu and was told that they don't have any available.
> >
> >
> >_________________________________
> >Terri Hedgpeth
> >Disability Specialist .
> >Disability Resources for Students
> >Arizona State University
> >Tempe, AZ 85287-3202
> >(480) 965-1232 (v)
> >(480) 965-0441 (fax)
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Sun Sounds of Arizona
>
>[<mailto:[log in to unmask]>mailto:[log in to unmask]
.EDU]
> >
> >Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 11:40 AM
> >To: [log in to unmask]
> >Subject: Re: Fw: Restaurant Praised For Its Braille Menus
> >
> >Cheesecake Factory, Black Angus, Out Back Stake House, and I think
Macaroni
> >Grill all have Braille menus.
> >At 06:59 AM 8/12/03 -0700, David wrote:
> > >Denny's has a national corporate policy that all Denny's are suppose to
> > have
> > >braille menus.  Also, though I don't completely trust the source so I
can't
> > >vouch for the accuracy, the resteraunts in Embassy Suites are suppose
to
> > >provide braille menus.
> > >
> > >David
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Gordan Wahl" <[log in to unmask]>
> > >To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > >Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 1:35 PM
> > >Subject: Re: Fw: Restaurant Praised For Its Braille Menus
> > >
> > >
> > > > Hi Jacob,  I travel quite a bit abit around the country with my 40
year
> > > > old "God Child," Tom.  Tom is a cross country 18 wheel truck driver.
> > > > From time to time I get to ride "shot gun" with him. just for the
fun
> > > > and adventure this 81 year old vision impaired WW II Veteran.  As a
> > > > single USAF Ltcol, Ret., former pilot, motorcycle rider, camper and
> > > > wilderness back packer, it surely beats watching the travel channel
on
> > > > TV.  We often stop to eat at the Cracker Barrel Restaurant chain
around
> > > > the country.  For many years this chain has available on request a
> > > > Braille and large print menu for blind and visually impaired guests.
I
> > > > sometimes have to request this menu as not all their staff are aware
of
> > > > this menu format.  There are some other eateries that do accomadate
the
> > > > blind and visually impaired, but I don't recall which ones.
Suggestion,
> > > > I always ask for the Braille/large print menu, and occasionally they
> > > > have one.  But, if everyone who reads this were to ask for a
> > > > Braille/large print menu when eating out, we would see more and more
> > > > eating establishments making them available for us.
> > > >  Ciao,  Gordon Wahl
> > > > ####
> > > >
> > > > Jacob Joehl wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yesterday at breakfast while out of town for a friend's wedding,
my
> > >brother,
> > > > > my sister and I all got to order from Braille menus and it was
sweet.
> > >The
> > > > > waiter asked my father, upon our entry into the restaurant of the
> > hotel
> > >at
> > > > > which we stayed, if we'd each like our own Braille menus. They
were
> > >prepared
> > > > > by Braille Ready, Inc., if any of you are familiar with that
place.
> > I'm
> > >not.
> > > > > Jacob
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Kevin Wassmer" <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > To: <[log in to unmask]>
> > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 10:03 PM
> > > > > Subject: Restaurant Praised For Its Braille Menus
> > > > >
> > > > > I thought this may have some interest for reading.
> > > > > > BB
> > > > > > > RESTAURANT PRAISED FOR ITS BRAILLE MENUS
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Wales, U K
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > A New addition to the menu of a Swansea restaurant is being
> > praised
> > >as a
> > > > > > touch of class. Spice, in
> > > > > > > St Helen's Road, has taken the rare step of including Braille
> > >symbols on
> > > > > > its menus.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It is hoped the Braille will make it easier for the blind and
> > > > > > partially-sighted to order without
> > > > > > > having the menu read to them.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Restaurant owner Wahid Ali said: "I got the idea when a table
of
> > >people
> > > > > > came in and one gentleman
> > > > > > > was blind.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "The people he was with had to read the menu to him and I
> > thought we
> > > > > could
> > > > > > do something to make him
> > > > > > > and other blind people feel a bit more independent."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The menus for the Indian and Thai restaurant were produced by
the
> > > > > > Recording Centre for the Blind at
> > > > > > > Swansea University.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Centre manager Kathy Williams said: "This is only the second
time
> > >we've
> > > > > > been asked to Braille
> > > > > > > restaurant menus.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "It's good to see a restaurant being proactive in getting the
> > menus
> > > > > > Brailled for its customers. It
> > > > > > > puts blind customers on an equal footing with sighted people
and
> > >means
> > > > > > they don't have to have the
> > > > > > > menu read out aloud for them."
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The centre currently supports about 14 visually impaired
> > students at
> > >the
> > > > > > university.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But translating the Indian dish names into embossed symbols is
not
> > >the
> > > > > > norm at the centre.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "It's certainly a change from the usual transcriptions we do
> > here,"
> > >said
> > > > > > Mrs Griffiths. "Most of our
> > > > > > > work is with academic texts and course materials. We provide
> > >Braille,
> > > > > > tapes, large print and disks
> > > > > > > for the blind and partially-sighted students on campus.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "These Braille menus contain the same English spellings for
the
> > >Indian
> > > > > > dish names as the print
> > > > > > > menus. Blind customers read these menus in the same way as
sighted
> > > > > readers
> > > > > > who don't necessarily
> > > > > > > know the foreign words."
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> It has been my experience in a lot of places that the staff is ill
> informed about the availability of Braille.&nbsp; I have too often had to
> challenge the hostess who says &quot;uh, we don't have anything like
> that.&quot;&nbsp; Since I know better, I say, could you ask your
> manager.&nbsp; Usually, they contritely come back with a Braille
> menu.&nbsp; If we keep asking though, it will get better.<br><br>
> At 11:39 AM 8/12/03 -0700, Terri Hedgpeth wrote:<br><br>
> <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite><font size=2>I recently went to an
> Outback Steakhouse in Mesa and asked for a Braille menu and was told that
> they don't have any available.<br>
> </font><br><br>
> <font size=2>_________________________________</font> <br>
> <font size=2>Terri Hedgpeth</font> <br>
> <font size=2>Disability Specialist .</font> <br>
> <font size=2>Disability Resources for Students</font> <br>
> <font size=2>Arizona State University</font> <br>
> <font size=2>Tempe, AZ 85287-3202</font> <br>
> <font size=2>(480) 965-1232 (v)</font> <br>
> <font size=2>(480) 965-0441 (fax)</font> <br><br>
> <br>
> <font size=2>-----Original Message-----</font> <br>
> <font size=2>From: Sun Sounds of Arizona
> [<a
href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">mailto:[log in to unmask]
COPA.EDU</a>]</font>
> <br>
> <font size=2>Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 11:40 AM</font> <br>
> <font size=2>To: [log in to unmask]</font> <br>
> <font size=2>Subject: Re: Fw: Restaurant Praised For Its Braille
> Menus</font> <br><br>
> <font size=2>Cheesecake Factory, Black Angus, Out Back Stake House, and I
> think Macaroni</font> <br>
> <font size=2>Grill all have Braille menus.</font> <br>
> <font size=2>At 06:59 AM 8/12/03 -0700, David wrote:</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;Denny's has a national corporate policy that all Denny's
> are suppose to have</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;braille menus.&nbsp; Also, though I don't completely
> trust the source so I can't</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;vouch for the accuracy, the resteraunts in Embassy
> Suites are suppose to</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;provide braille menus.</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;David</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;----- Original Message -----</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;From: &quot;Gordan Wahl&quot;
> &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;To: &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 1:35 PM</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;Subject: Re: Fw: Restaurant Praised For Its Braille
> Menus</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; Hi Jacob,&nbsp; I travel quite a bit abit around
> the country with my 40 year</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; old &quot;God Child,&quot; Tom.&nbsp; Tom is a
> cross country 18 wheel truck driver.</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; From time to time I get to ride &quot;shot
> gun&quot; with him. just for the fun</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; and adventure this 81 year old vision impaired WW
> II Veteran.&nbsp; As a</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; single USAF Ltcol, Ret., former pilot, motorcycle
> rider, camper and</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; wilderness back packer, it surely beats watching
> the travel channel on</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; TV.&nbsp; We often stop to eat at the Cracker
> Barrel Restaurant chain around</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; the country.&nbsp; For many years this chain has
> available on request a</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; Braille and large print menu for blind and
> visually impaired guests.&nbsp; I</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; sometimes have to request this menu as not all
> their staff are aware of</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; this menu format.&nbsp; There are some other
> eateries that do accomadate the</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; blind and visually impaired, but I don't recall
> which ones.&nbsp; Suggestion,</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; I always ask for the Braille/large print menu, and
> occasionally they</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; have one.&nbsp; But, if everyone who reads this
> were to ask for a</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; Braille/large print menu when eating out, we would
> see more and more</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; eating establishments making them available for
> us.</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt;&nbsp; Ciao,&nbsp; Gordon Wahl</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; ####</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt;</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; Jacob Joehl wrote:</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; Yesterday at breakfast while out of town for
> a friend's wedding, my</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;brother,</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; my sister and I all got to order from Braille
> menus and it was sweet.</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;The</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; waiter asked my father, upon our entry into
> the restaurant of the hotel</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;at</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; which we stayed, if we'd each like our own
> Braille menus. They were</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;prepared</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; by Braille Ready, Inc., if any of you are
> familiar with that place. I'm</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;not.</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; Jacob</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; ----- Original Message -----</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; From: &quot;Kevin Wassmer&quot;
> &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; To:
> &lt;[log in to unmask]&gt;</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 10:03 PM</font>
> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; Subject: Restaurant Praised For Its Braille
Menus</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt;</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; I thought this may have some interest for
reading.</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; BB</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; RESTAURANT PRAISED FOR ITS BRAILLE
MENUS</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Wales, U K</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; A New addition to the menu of a
Swansea restaurant is being praised</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;as a</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; touch of class. Spice, in</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; St Helen's Road, has taken the rare
step of including Braille</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;symbols on</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; its menus.</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; It is hoped the Braille will make it
easier for the blind and</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; partially-sighted to order without</font>
<br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; having the menu read to them.</font>
<br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Restaurant owner Wahid Ali said:
&quot;I got the idea when a table of</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;people</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; came in and one gentleman</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; was blind.</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &quot;The people he was with had to
read the menu to him and I thought we</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; could</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; do something to make him</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; and other blind people feel a bit
more independent.&quot;</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; The menus for the Indian and Thai
restaurant were produced by the</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Recording Centre for the Blind at</font>
<br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Swansea University.</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Centre manager Kathy Williams said:
&quot;This is only the second time</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;we've</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; been asked to Braille</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; restaurant menus.</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &quot;It's good to see a restaurant
being proactive in getting the menus</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Brailled for its customers. It</font>
<br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; puts blind customers on an equal
footing with sighted people and</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;means</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; they don't have to have the</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; menu read out aloud for
them.&quot;</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; The centre currently supports about
14 visually impaired students at</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;the</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; university.</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; But translating the Indian dish
names into embossed symbols is not</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;the</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; norm at the centre.</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &quot;It's certainly a change from
the usual transcriptions we do here,&quot;</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;said</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Mrs Griffiths. &quot;Most of our</font>
<br>
> <font size=2>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; work is with academic texts and
course materials. We provide</font> <br>
> <font size=2>&gt;Braille,</font> <br>
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