> "Craig Miles"
> > Jay Banks:

> > Interesting article:
> >
> > > Veg out, live longer
> > > Vegetarians have always claimed their lifestyle is healthier. Now new
> > > research appears to confirm that they do live longer.
> > > http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/health/story.jsp?story=441386
>
> What did the non-vegetarians eat? Typical Western diets full of grains and
> refined carbs with lots of trans fats?

They used the general population to represent the "non-vegetarian"
lifestyle. They wouldn't dare to compare vegetarians against folks
eating Paleo, Weston Price, Sally Fallon, or other diets based on
evolution. It makes good headlines to compare SAD food against a
health-conscious "vegetarian" diet (which might include sea food,
eggs, dairy, the occasional red meat and poultry...). Saying they
have verified that the "vegetarians" didn't cheat is a ridiculous
proposition. Most cheat and then lie about it. Only having them
under direct observations (like Stefansson in his all-meat study
at Bellevue) would ensure total compliance.

> It would be interesting to see a study comparing them to paleo omnivores.

"The most primitive people usually have the best teeth. No people of the
past or present are known who had complete freedom from dental decay
unless they were hunting, fishing, pastoral in their way of life and
got little or none of their food direct from the vegetable kingdom. In
some cases, a highly vegetarian people, while not attaining the one
hundred percent perfection of meat-eaters, do, nonetheless, have very
good teeth as compared with ours."
-----Vilhjalmur Stefansson, "The Fat of the Land/Not By Bread Alone"

Most of what passes for nutrition ... is more politics than nutrition.
-----Ray Audette, author of "NeanderThin", in an interview

-Bruce Kleisner